You be the judge - sexual assault?

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  1. Bells Staff Member

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    Does cannabis have a history of being mentioned as being harmful in connection to pianos?

    There is a known and well documented history of homophobia connecting homosexuality with paedophilia, along the lines that homosexuals are paedophiles out to harm children, as a means to deny homosexuals their fundamental human rights.

    When you invoke homosexuality in regards to paedophilia, it comes with it a wide range of hateful commentary and actions against homosexuals. When you opine about how homosexuality was once also illegal when discussing paedophilia, you leave out the fact that homosexuality entails sexual relations between two consenting adults and in no way harms or exploits children.

    Your comparison, your 'questions', invoke a dangerous myth, one with a history full of hatred, deaths, beatings, assaults, abuse, denial of human rights as a form of justification. In Russia, homosexuals are being systematically abused and some murdered because Putin and the Government invoked the comparison to paedophilia.

    https://www.huffingtonpost.com/joe-kort-phd/homosexuality-and-pedophi_b_1932622.html

    https://www.theatlantic.com/health/...los-and-the-myth-of-the-gay-pedophile/517332/

    So cut the crap about cannabis and pianos. No one is buying it. You are not stupid enough to not know of or understand what your comparison entails, nor can we be expected to believe that you are that ignorant.
     
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  3. Tiassa Let us not launch the boat ... Staff Member

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    Compared to your rape advocacy in general and diminution of consent in particular, I'm not nearly so worried about typos.
     
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  5. sideshowbob Sorry, wrong number. Valued Senior Member

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    That's a really stupid thing to say.
     
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  7. sideshowbob Sorry, wrong number. Valued Senior Member

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    Again, I'm comparing the attitude toward questioning.
     
  8. Bells Staff Member

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    Ironically, so are we...
     
  9. James R Just this guy, you know? Staff Member

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    As an aside, studies have shown that the effect works similarly when it comes to addictions to drugs, gambling and alcohol. Say you're a smoker, for example. It turns out that merely seeing images of cigarettes or people smoking, or related paraphernalia (like a lighter, say), can trigger off a craving for a cigarette. Possibly even talking about or thinking about smoking can do the trick. This is also one reason why advertising gambling on television might be harmful, quite apart from arguments against normalising the behaviour.

    There is some current investigation into treatments that try to teach a person to control the behaviour that often follows the cravings that result when they view such images. The aim is to teach people to regulate their own level of arousal when exposed to the triggering images or situations.
     
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  10. Quantum Quack Life's a tease... Valued Senior Member

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    Well lets rephrase the question:
    Should drawing a house plan and inicating where to plant c4 be illegal?
    (House is real and owned by someone, perhaps your house say)
    If police found those drawings in somones posession what would they do?

    How is it any different to being found in possession of child porn drawings?
     
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  11. Tiassa Let us not launch the boat ... Staff Member

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    I should note that the cigarettes I smoked did not burn up as quickly as other, market-dominating brands. Even when one of the brands introduced a variation intended to compete with the cigarettes I smoked, it still went faster. There are a number of reasons for this, but cigarettes are a finely-engineered scourge.

    Americans had a free-speech fight about billboard advertising, and the underlying reason was actually demonstrable. If you smoked one of the common brands, the billboards along, say, the I-5 corridor where I live, were effective by saturation and, when that wasn't available, careful calculation. With the cigarettes I smoked, it didn't match up perfectly, but every once in a while I found myself buying something else because, well, it's an addiction, and the store I was at was out of my preferred grit, so I bought whatever for the fix, and it turns out the timing is nearly perfect: The billboards were placed so that driving at approximately the speed limit, you would see another billboard almost immediately after finishing a cigarette, and on the long stretches a billboard every three to five miles was enough to control smokers. I wasn't much for chain smoking, but it was possible back in the days when dapper cartoon characters lined the corridor between Seattle and Portland and then down to Salem ... and Eugene.

    At the time it felt like an inevitable free speech standoff because we complained about endangering kids by using genital joke cartoon characters to pitch an addictive carcinogen; we also had to eventually do away with cigarette-based, branded trading currency. But, yeah, thinking back, it was pretty freaking crazy. From the Canadian border to the Mexican border, I-5 was lined with a perfectly and logically insane amount of cigarette advertising. And, sure, I guess that part was for the kids, but only after they were hooked.
     
  12. Bowser Namaste Valued Senior Member

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    Does it matter because you were wearing the jeans at the time? What if he had pulled them out of your dresser and molested your jeans?
     
  13. Beer w/Straw Transcendental Ignorance! Valued Senior Member

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    I should train him to do a laundry.
     
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  14. Beer w/Straw Transcendental Ignorance! Valued Senior Member

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  15. sideshowbob Sorry, wrong number. Valued Senior Member

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    That's a good question. If it was a specific house, that would suggest intent. But what if it was a gingerbread house that was clearly fictional?

    What about a drawing of you pointing a gun at me? Would that suggest intent? What about a drawing of you pointing a gun at Adolf Hitler or Sherlock Holmes?
     
  16. Beer w/Straw Transcendental Ignorance! Valued Senior Member

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    And the president of united states wants to have sex with his daughter?
     
  17. Tiassa Let us not launch the boat ... Staff Member

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    The problem is this craven theme of molestation.

    Priorities are as priorities will.
     
  18. Quantum Quack Life's a tease... Valued Senior Member

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    If the drawing was of a fictional child it would demonstrate intent to molest. ( any child) How many ginger bread houses are there in the world?
     
  19. river

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    Men are being forced to mature into Adults , about time really .

    Some Men have a hard time respecting women .
     
  20. river

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    Sexual assault is disturbingly pervasive in our current society .
     
  21. Quantum Quack Life's a tease... Valued Senior Member

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    Respecting another's "No" and the need for consent, is the primary reason this world is constantly in a state of conflict. IMO
     
  22. sideshowbob Sorry, wrong number. Valued Senior Member

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    How? Does a drawing of you pointing a gun at Sherlock Holmes demonstrate intent to shoot?

    Lots. Probably some at German Christmas Markets.
     
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