Yin and Yang theory. Is it relevant in the 21st Century?

Discussion in 'Eastern Philosophy' started by Kovak, Oct 30, 2008.

  1. Fraggle Rocker Staff Member

    I agree. Nonetheless we're still being guided into analyzing life using a one-dimensional measure. The polytheistic cultures give us 23 dimensions. Jung's point is that good vs. evil is contextual. Letting your Warrior dominate might be "good" when you're playing football, but not so much at the next morning's corporate staff meeting. He cautions us that we need healthy outlets for all of our spirits. If we suppress one of them he or she will suffer in frustration and then one day burst out in anger, often at the worst possible moment. And of course everyone is different and some of those spirits are more dominant than others.

    You just can't get a model like that out of monotheism. Perhaps the Yi Jing's "digital encoding" of "analog spirits" using those six little blocks works better.
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  3. Kovak Registered Senior Member

    Yin and Yang in the 21st Century revisited...

    Another point I would like to add to this interesting discussion is that Yin and Yang Theory was composed by the ancient Chinese based on observation, experimentation and response to life experiences within nature and natural products.

    What else is there ultimately? All 'synthetic' or man made products were in essence natures 'secrets' waiting to be eventually discovered by intellectually evolving human cultures our planet Earth. Ultimately in a pure physical sense as the Universe is one immense 'atom' the atom and thus atomic energy would be discovered by conscious beings on any planet(if conducive to intelligent life) along with its potential for positive and negative purposes.

    Thus is Yin & Yang a theory or fact? Can it be scientifically refuted? If not then we must accept that all contrasting phenomena must have a source? Is that source nothingness(before light and matter) that somehow developed self realization?
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  5. drrsundarraj Registered Member

    Yin and Yang

    Yin is same as Nirguna Brahman (the retarding force/ isometric relaxation of our skeletal muscular system)
    Yang is same as Saguna Brahman (the facilitating force/isometric relaxation of our skeletal muscular system.
    Ideally, they should be equal in magnitude but never co exist.
    However, under practical conditions they co exist in 7 forms.
    They are considered as the seven basic Hindu gods.
    They are,
    1. Indra
    2. Shakti
    3. Brahma
    4. Vishnu
    5. Shiva
    6 Shani
    7 Yama.
    They differ from each other in the arrival of the retarding force, after the arrival of the facilitating force. In Indra they come simultaneously and in Yama the delay is the maximum.
    It is enough here if we know that Indra favors thinking and Yama favors action.
    Vishnu, in which the retarding force comes in the middle, is the default Hindu god.
    For modern people the Yama force is the best. However, it is too risky. It is for this reason that modern people progress so fast but get into all kinds of troubles
    However, ideally the two forces should be equal and separate.
    Thus, Hindus had studied the opposing forces even before Chinese and in greater detail.
    The forces would be eternal and equal.
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  7. wellwisher Banned Banned

    A complementary set of yin and yang, are defined in terms of their relationships to the other. Each, yin or yang, will set the baseline by which the other will be defined.

    For example, hot and cold is relative to how we define hot (yin) or cold (yang). If we look at matter near absolute zero and call than cold, than -100C could be hot, since it can melt and boil even solid hydrogen. If we define 100,000,000,000 C as a hot stellar core, 10,000 C is a cold star core. Once yin or yang is defined, it creates its complementary opposite that is relative to the other.

    The history of morality often changes our definitions of good and evil, with each new yin defined by the new yang. Slavery was a normal part of life in ancient times, therefore not part of evil. Later slavery becomes part of the evil pile. This created a new yin relative to the new yang, but they still each define in terms of the other.

    The ancients were not into the modern illusion of relative, which can alter the scale of yin and yang on the whim or fad. Today this food is the best and tomorrow it is not good for you. Rather than whim of the gods, they saw each yin and yang based on absolute scales which they would try to define. This is harder to do than relative; only needs a short self life which means easier to do. Maybe the brain is weaker today since relative is easier could define the modern brain power if we factor out machines. Machines can't define these intelligent things, so in the cases of yin and yang we need to shed the machine, with relative meaning less brain function when the machine is removed.

    An analogy is two men, one with a shovel and one driving a tractor. The man with the tractor is stronger on the farm and can do a lot more work. But say we change the tasks to something that need to be done without machines or device; there are no intelligent machines. The shovel guy will have a stronger body without any machine attached. But if we add machines you becomes like hercules (artificial added). He will prefer to add artificial so he stays like hercules, but each person benefits by a different articial; relative to what you need. But absolute is down to the basics of no artificial added, which is harder to do.
  8. rr6 Banned Banned



    Yin/female( Xx )/concave/attractive

    Yang/male( Xy )/convex/pusher/radiative

    Yin is to go with the current i.e. to go with the wind and acceptance.

    Yang is to go against the current i.e to against the wind non-acceptance.

    Yin is zero( 0 )--non-occupied/inactive

    Yang is one( 1 )---occupied/active

    2D geometric;

    Yin is concave....(.....

    Yang is convex......)......

    3D geometric;

    Yin is Icosa(20)hedrally stable

    Yang is penta(5)gonal dodeca(10)hedral unstable


    Yin is gravitational spacetime( membrane ) embracing, constraing and cohereing all inward >IN<.

    Yang is radiative seeding quanta outward <OUT>.



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