Yahoo! should be ashamed of what they are sending!!!

Discussion in 'Ethics, Morality, & Justice' started by thecurly1, Nov 29, 2001.

  1. thecurly1 Registered Senior Member

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    I recieved a Yahoo! Daily Wire in my e-mail today. Five links to interesting websites, and a quick synopse of them are given. Well among these was a particular link to a site advertising "t-shirt hell". Looked interesting so I clicked, and saw a t-shit saying, "Bin Laden is a big fat doodiehead", which was worn by a man with a blue wigh.

    Okay, not to bad, I enter and scroll down. I was appalled to see such things on these t-shirts:

    " IF YOU'RE ALREADY THIS CLOSE
    WHY DON'T YOU JUST SUCK MY DICK?"

    " SCHOOL SHOOTINGS TOUR
    1996-2001 T-SHIRT
    Coming soon to a highly repressed rural middle school near you (Only shootings with fatalities listed). "

    "HOMOSEXUALS ARE GAY!
    T-Shirt Hell in no way promotes or tolerates hate or prejudice. We hate you and are prejudice towards you if you believe otherwise." (I believe otherwise, so be it.)

    "ABORTIONS TICKLE!
    The great potato state of Idaho averages 17.2 illegal abortions yearly. That number is growing steadily."

    "ANOREXIA IS PHAT!
    1. Intense fear of weight gain.
    2. Distorted body image
    3. loss of 3 consec. menstrual periods."

    "I COMMITED SUICIDE
    Since you have made it this far, you deserve a reward. I think you should reward yourself by giving yourself a gift. The gift you will give yourself is a coping resource."

    I do believe in the first amendment, so yes, this company can display what they choose and I cannot stop them by law. More the question of weather or not these slogans should be on the shirts, is if a major media company such as Yahoo! should advertise such things. Keep in mind that minors recieved the same e-mail and link from Yahoo!, which is perfectly legal by the way.

    GIMMIE YOUR OPPINIONS.
     
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  3. machaon Registered Senior Member

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    the curly1

    What you have described is the right of free speech and your right to disagree.
     
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  5. Porfiry Nomad Registered Senior Member

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    Are you suggesting that a media company should have good taste? Excuse me for a minute while I stop laughing.

    Actually, either the people at Yahoo are just genuinely stupid and have no notion of consequence (if only for the abortion one which is sure to enrage a few people) or there's a disgruntled rogue who's slipping in these things as a means to protest the wretched lifestyle as a dot-com slave. Sort of like the Disney animators who slip in bits of porn into children's movies. In which case, God-speed little rogue.


    egads... I nearly typed 'rouge' instead of 'rogue'. I suspect that would have made less sense.
     
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  7. Riomacleod Registered Senior Member

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    I think the "I commited suicide" one is kinda funny. So is the Homosexuals are Gay one. See... cause of irony... erm, yeah.

    What is wrong with sending this to minors? I know that when I was in high school "Dick" was just one of the words we said, so they're not teaching them new words. Is it the school shooting one? If kids decide to shoot a school because of a t-shirt, there are underlying problems.
     
  8. wet1 Wanderer Registered Senior Member

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    I gotta admit that tasteless seems to be the word that most aptly fits. I would think that this is one that will not be in the tshirt business for very long. Unless tastes have changed that much since I went to school. That is something I do not think I would have worn or would wear now. Maybe the new style is to wear them inside out....
     
  9. thecurly1 Registered Senior Member

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    I would hope so wet1, and I go to high school.

    Thank god we have a limited dress/decency code.
     
  10. Riomacleod Registered Senior Member

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    Bah!
    People need to get over themselves.
    That's half the problem with the world today is that since we've striven to be understanding and tolerant, people have lost their sense of humor about anything. I've half a mind to buy a few of those t-shirts and wear them, just to prove a point.
    And I've yet to hear why minors should be kept away from such material. It's obviously "dangerous" in some way.
     
  11. Asguard Kiss my dark side Valued Senior Member

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    i tend to agree with the last person we can't just take offence at everything or we might as well just be robots with no joking at all
     
  12. Pollux V Ra Bless America Registered Senior Member

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    I had an idea for a t-shirt once:

    "Got adjectives?"

    Those t-shirts seemed fairly satirical, and I really admire that art...I love being sarcastic, aaaah its such a high when you say something really incredibly funny (whether or not the people around you think so).

    Here follows a satirical line that I made up upon hearing about a hillbilly-antisemitic neighbor. This is not really a joke but it is meant to show how moronic racism is of any kind, and how often it seems to just pile oxymorons on top of each other. I am not an anti-semite, in fact I'm half jewish, so don't take this the wrong way.

    "If jews are so stupid, then how come they run the world?"

    You see it is an oxymoron, as hillbillies around here think jewish=stupid and terrorists think that jews run the world. Yet none of these statements are true and they are all plainly idiotical, which hopefully is obviously illustrated in the previous quote.

    Thoughts?
     
  13. Riomacleod Registered Senior Member

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    Ok, as a progress report, I have some gay friends, and I went to them for their opinions of the "Homosexuals are gay" shirts. They thought it was very funny.

    Have you ever noticed how it's *rarely* the "offended" minority group that has a problem with a tshirt, or a joke, or a school mascott? It's almost always upper-middle class white kids who have nothing better to do with their time, and-maybe because of some deep seeded white guilt-have taken it upon themselves to liberate some group from the terrible and offensive whatevers that have gone on too long.

    This is what happened to my college, Miami Univeristy. The college was built in the very early 1800's, WITH THE PERMISSION OF THE MIAMI INDIAN TRIBE. Anyone from the Miami tribe are still automatically admitted, and can get all sorts of scholarships to basically make the education free. The mascott of Miami used to be the Redskins. But, some bored white kids on our campus SOUGHT OUT the leaders of the Miami indian tribe (somewhere in Oklahoma, I think) and talked them into issuing a statement about the racially charged name "redskins" and how they thought it was offensive, even though they had endorsed the name in years past.

    The fact of the matter is that we have entirely too many people who whine about too many little things. Wearing a shirt that says boldly on the front "I commited suicide" does not endorse people killing themselves. It won't make people kill themselves. It won't! Really. Seeing a shirt that says "Homosexuals are gay" is not going to make someone any more or any less hateful of homosexual people. It's not going to detract from the difficult time that many gay people have in their lives. It won't increase violence against gays. It simply won't.

    Honestly, I'm not really sure what people are so afraid of. Maybe deep down, there is a group of people who knows that if people were able to look past things, if they were able to make jokes and not worry about what "message" it sent, if we really COULD see that reactive groups are dangerous AND divisive no matter who they say they're trying to help, if for one god damned day there could be some *actual* understanding, if people could simply grow up and get over themselves and their center-of-all-known-existance-everyone's-out-to-get-me mentality (yes that means ALL people of ALL races, white, black, green, blue and polkadotted) that is perpetuated by two particular organizations which will at this time remain nameless, if we could achieve all of this that the world would actually BE a better place, fewer people would be pawns, and everyone MIGHT just be a little happier.
     
  14. Pollux V Ra Bless America Registered Senior Member

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    Maybe what you're trying to say is that if a joke is grounded and generally makes sense, i.e homosexuals are gay or jews are jewish, the people seeing the shirts won't have a problem and will probably laugh at the shirts once they realize that they aren't meant to be offensive but are really meant to poke fun at those who would offend jews or gays.

    But I think saying that rich white boys stand up for any racial slur in a joking matter that works the same way as the above paragraph is a generalization, because some jokes or t-shirts may in fact be really racist but on the outside appear to be poking fun at racists, maybe like that whole thing in a power plant *somewhere* where they had nooses hanging on telephone poles, black employees were underpaid and black customers were overcharged. The blacks were the ones that stood up for their rights and now each and every one of them is going to get some insane amount of money because of it. Makes me wish that a rich kid did something like that to me (half jewish but doesn't fit the profile at all) so I could sue him for every penny and scrap of food he had to live out my life a happy and content person.
     
  15. goofyfish Analog By Birth, Digital By Design Valued Senior Member

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    Makes me wish that rich and poor alike would stop doing that, actually.

    Peace.
     
  16. Pollux V Ra Bless America Registered Senior Member

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    Yes...
     
  17. Chagur .Seeker. Registered Senior Member

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    thecurly 1 ...

    Hell, don't get upset until they come out with a

    KILL A NIGGER FOR GOD!

    Tee shirt. After all, it's all in fun.

    Take care

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  18. Riomacleod Registered Senior Member

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    I apologise. That is a situation that needed to be changed, and the people who were taken advantage of did the correct thing in standing up. But I think you misconstrued my argument. It's that the rich and bored college students are the ones making most of the unnecessary fusses in the world, mostly about things which were actually intended in innocence. My point was not to say that minority groups never have problems, it was simply to say that fusses over minor things tend to leave bad tastes in people's mouths for the big things and the serious issues.
     
  19. Pollux V Ra Bless America Registered Senior Member

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    Then I believe we find ourselves in agreement, Riomacleod.
     
  20. Chagur .Seeker. Registered Senior Member

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    Xev ...

    Now you've got me curious.

    Which BOB said "Fuck them if they can't take a joke" ????

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  21. goofyfish Analog By Birth, Digital By Design Valued Senior Member

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    thecurly1,

    It's just the media doing it's work again...
    Everything for the damn green paper...
    It's like the society works... unfortunatly.
    It's the essence of capitalism.
    Competion...
    Publicity...
    Violence in the name of "freedom"...

    If we want to change, we have to cause revolution in the world, against capitalism.

    It's just a mount of crap...

    ... Patience...

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  23. Riomacleod Registered Senior Member

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    I swear, not a week goes by that capitalism isn't blamed for something. Why do you think that it's the fault of an economic system that these apparently "evil" shirts were made? What is wrong with free market competition? Please, if you're going to post something, have the decency to give a better argument than "Capitalism sucks because I said so". For a better discussion of capitalism, I'd go look through the archives, because a small group of us really fleshed it out some.
     

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