WTC Building 7 Anomalies

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  1. MacGyver1968 Fixin' Shit that Ain't Broke Valued Senior Member

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    Yeah...pretty much...that's why Geoff and I are doing the argument sketch from Monty Python.
     
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  3. leopold Valued Senior Member

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    it is, pretty much.
    we still like to drag out the dead horse every once in a while.
    hell, you might see 2 or 3 of them on any given day around these parts.
    actually it was one of trippys experiments gone horribly wrong.
    maybe. see above.
    and what is it with christians as opposed to, say, hindus?
     
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  5. Trippy ALEA IACTA EST Staff Member

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    Shit...

    He's onto me...
     
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  7. Syzygys As a mother, I am telling you Valued Senior Member

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    This is absolutely not addressing the issue. If there is no damage to the building, then you have a building full of explosives.

    Well, I see what you are trying to say. Thay they could just blow it anyway. Well, then there was no point in messing with airplanes at the first place... And this is actually a good argument against all buildings, why not just blow them outright? Terrorists (or anybody) can still be blamed...

    And I presented explanations. Explosion =/= bomb

    Hell, a fire extinguisher can explode!

    I understand that, but the plan is just way to elaborate, when much simpler idea could have worked just as well...

    hell, what if they just simply destroy the documents??? Who is to say, who did it???
     
  8. Syzygys As a mother, I am telling you Valued Senior Member

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    That is pretty good. What we learnt:

    1. Buildings demolished don't fall with freefall.
    2. The explosions are VERY LOUD.
    3. The explosions can bee seen.
     
  9. The Esotericist Getting the message to Garcia Valued Senior Member

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    I thought it was fifteen minutes?
     
  10. The Esotericist Getting the message to Garcia Valued Senior Member

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    Yeah, what anomalies? There are no anomalies to see here. Move along.
     
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    Either answer the question, or stop trolling. It was a genuine question, and I'd appreciate a genuine answer.

    I was simply asking Leopold what he considered anomalies (and why).

    How else is anything approaching reasonable discourse supposed to occur? I'm not Psychic, I'm not omiscient, I don't know what he's thinking.
     
  12. The Esotericist Getting the message to Garcia Valued Senior Member

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    I said, you're right. Since I switched sides, it's allowed now.
     
  13. leopold Valued Senior Member

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    the term "pull it" made by silverstein.
    i'm sorry but i don't buy the "remove the firefighters" bit.

    the way it fell.
    i've watched quite a few videos of CDs of various structures.
    building 7 follows the MO of a CD.

    listen, i know you need a 1000 foot fractionating column but relax.
     
  14. adoucette Caca Occurs Valued Senior Member

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    Except it was during a PBS documentary filmed well after the event and he was discussing his conversation with the FD.
    Fire Departments don't do CDs so that interpretation makes no sense.

    Pulling the fire department contingent out of the building (which is what they did) is a much more reasonable interpretation.

    Of course, gravity is the force that causes CD buildings to collapse, Gravity is the force that causes fire induced collapse so of course they would look similar.

    What isn't similar is that FIRES burning for 7 hours are never used in CDs
    What isn't similar is that CD always preps the columns and other supporting elements, cutting much of them prior to placing the explosive right on the columns, something that could not have been done in WTC 7 without plenty of people being aware of that fact.
    What isn't similar to CD is there were no dozens and dozens of SHARP Explosives sounds associated with the High Explosives needed to cut the large beams in a building that size. NIST did the research that said that the key column would have required pre-cuts and 9 lbs of RDX high explosive in order to cut just that one column and that would have created a 130 DB CLAP that would have been heard a mile away. Videos of the collapse, with sound tracts don't have any of these LOUD claps.

    So no, the collapse of WTC 7 does not actually resemble ANY CD you can find a video of that includes a sound track.

    Arthur
     
  15. MacGyver1968 Fixin' Shit that Ain't Broke Valued Senior Member

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    Except he never said "pull it"

    So in a conversation with the fire department about not being able to contain the fires...and discussing the already tremendous loss of life, you think Silverstein was telling the FDNY to cd the building, rather than "pull back" the firefighters from the area?
     
  16. Syzygys As a mother, I am telling you Valued Senior Member

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    So had he used 'them", there would be no conspiracy?

    You guys have to work harder, we need a plausible storyline, not just, hey, this is suspicious...

    Do you have the fairytale for us or not? You know, the who, what, why, when thingy....
     
  17. markl323 Registered Senior Member

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    no one watch the video i posted (ae911truth)? a lot of credible evidence in there presented by architects and structural engineers.
     
  18. MacGyver1968 Fixin' Shit that Ain't Broke Valued Senior Member

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    Yes..I've seen them...this is the same Richard Gage that believes cardboard boxes behave in the same manner that 110 story building do:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DFVoencqfZw#t=30s
     
  19. RedRabbit Registered Senior Member

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    What the hell!!

    Why did they build two skyscrapers out of cardboard boxes??

    That's madness. Proof they wanted the towers to fall.

    Case closed for me.

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