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Discussion in 'World Events' started by Mucker, Aug 16, 2003.

  1. Mucker Great View! Registered Senior Member

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    Near the beginning of World War II the Russians were doing this:

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    From here: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2945841203&category=1469

    Any thoughts anyone??

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  7. Kunax Sciforums:Reality not required Registered Senior Member

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    what is your own opinion on the subjects, actualy what do you want to talk about, russian scientist, mental hospitals, selling of videos on ebay?

    or why we dont have cool cheap 3d projecters where you sit "in" the movie, while it plays around you(hmm play AVP as marie anyone).
     
  8. Mucker Great View! Registered Senior Member

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    I wanted a discussion in general.

    After some reading it seems that the Russians were a big factor in stopping the germans (Hitler), and it seems to me that they have always been a major force! They repelled Hitler, as a military leader, and his greatest ideas! It seems significant that The United States of America's greatest threat seems to be (judging by their films) Russia/The U.S.S.R/the Soviet Union, or whatever you want to to call it. I do not think that this is because Russia is the most eastern country, but because they are a neighbouring country! Humanity has now spanned the globe, and America's ideas have come to an end with the meeting of The U.S.S.R. This is why the headed for space, and the moon: there is no where left to go! There is no land left, and although European maps show Europe as the centre of the map, a true world map shows North America as being immediate to Russia:

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    ...and just 'west' of this location is this country:

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    The point is that Earth is a globe, not just an East and West! Just because propaganda says that the United States is the 'cutting edge' of humanity, doesn't mean that it is! The Earth is a sphere!

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  9. Persol I am the great and mighty Zo. Registered Senior Member

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    Ok, germany (along with most other nations) had disturbing experiments. The world is a globe. Not much there.

    For the original stuff... it looks like it was from a bad horror movie.
     
  10. Mucker Great View! Registered Senior Member

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    There is though! The fact that the most extreme ideas about individualism have come at a time when there is no place left on Earth is interesting to say the least: would such extreme ideas about individualism have come if there was somewhere else left on Earth for people to go?

    The fact that such extreme ideas (that rebel against communism) have come to fruition is not such much a display of how far humanity has come, rather a sign of where they cannot go.

    The world is a globe and even though European maps have us beleive that the extreme West (North and South America) is at a distance from the east (specifically Russia), it is in fact next to it. The point is this: the ideas that people have on the Earth have not travelled as far as the extreme' west', rather they have met the Eastern countries, and rebelled. Would the ideas that exist in America be there if space was bigger? Would individualism have come about so soon had people not met adversary from the Eastern part of the globe? This is a sign of nature over nurture: environment over people.

    What I'm saying is that the extreme ideas that are prevailant in the West have probably only come about because of adversary: space has run out and humanity has gone around the globe, and come across Russia another country and it's ideas, again. Would the complete opposite of ideas (if it can be considered a complete opposite) have been as forthcoming if there was more space on Earth?

    The attachment shows how as people have moved onto North America (specifically The United States), the space on Earth has run out, and with the U.S.S.R at X (an already established continent). Any ideas that contradict those of it will not be allowed to come into fruition, hence the move upwards (shown in yellow).

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  11. nico Banned Banned

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    Does this thread have a point, I mean seriously? Or I am just lost?
     
  12. 10-10-220 Registered Senior Member

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    No, it doesn't

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  13. Mucker Great View! Registered Senior Member

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    Has the ideology that has come to the U.S come about because that is the natural way human thought has gone, or is it just because we have run out of space??

    Humanity has now spanned the globe. Has the adversary of communism (individualism) come about because that is the way human thought goes, or is it because there is no where else for humanity to go?

    What I am asking is is this the way human ideas would have gone naturally, or is it just that humanity has now circled the globe and come across an adversary?

    Would things have gone as they have without an adversary? Would the extreme ideas of the United States have come about (so soon) if the Earth was bigger?
     
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  14. Mystech Adult Supervision Required Registered Senior Member

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    Ummm communism is much more closely related to collectivism, which is the antithesis of individualism.

    What extreem ideas are those, exactly?
     
  15. Mucker Great View! Registered Senior Member

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    Yeah, that's my point.

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    Extreme individualism.
     
  16. nico Banned Banned

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    Well communism in the end of the day is actually believe it or not the liberation of the individual. Communism is bascily peacful anacrchy. No one is in control, so mucker don't say communism anymore say socialism at least.

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  17. Mucker Great View! Registered Senior Member

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    Well you know what I mean Nico. They're all the same thing.

    *waits by the floodgates for scores of posts that will state how different the two are*
     
  18. nico Banned Banned

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    No they are not the same thing, that was ignorant. Socialism and communism are two opposites. Socialism is only a step to communism.Socialism is the communalization of the people's to acheive the later de-centralized nature of communism. Thus not the same, please use socialism not communism. I am not asking for much.
     

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