Would there be Nazi university student activist groups instead ?

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Cazzo, Feb 22, 2009.

  1. Repo Man Valued Senior Member

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    He would have been in no danger of losing his job for parroting the official "truth", hence there would have been no need for the petition to exist. It's funny how freedom of speech only needs to be defended when it is for unpopular ideas.
     
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  3. Cazzo Registered Senior Member

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    That may or may not be true.
    But you know as well as everyone else knows, if Ward Churchill had said something like "the 9-11 victims were heros and victims of islamo-fascism", and his job became threatened afterwards, those same left-wing petitioners now would NOT have petitioned in support of him.
    Just the opposite, they probably would have condemned him as a "fascist" American.

    Professor Churchill got support from those thousands of petitioners because they support his anti-American propoganda.
     
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  5. Repo Man Valued Senior Member

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    There is no way for you to know how many of them actually supported his ideas. It is pure pointless speculation on your part.

    Do you believe he should have suffered the loss of his livelihood because of his unpopular opinions?
     
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  7. John99 Banned Banned

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    So then you must think that Socialism is a big lie.
     
  8. Randwolf Ignorance killed the cat Valued Senior Member

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    Yes, errr, yes, I'm sorry, yes, I do...
     
  9. Cazzo Registered Senior Member

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    I can't think of any person other than a left-wing extremist that would support a person that calls 9-11 victims facists and "little Eichmanns"....



    I think any person put in the position as a trusted educator that abuses their position to brainwash students with radical political opions should be fired.
    They can spew all their propoganda on the streets and internet if they like, it's their free speech right, but when a teacher abuses their position to brainwash students, they should be fired.
     
  10. pjdude1219 The biscuit has risen Valued Senior Member

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    So cazzo I guess your against religious colleges than
     
  11. synthesizer-patel Sweep the leg Johnny! Valued Senior Member

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    You doubt it do you? - So really this is just opinion then - and an opinion that you have so far provided nothing factual to back up.
    WC's description of the people working in the WTC as "Little Eichmans" was pretty despicable - but says nothing about his political leanings and certainly does not make him a defacto commie.
    Indeed you are comitting an apriori logical fallacy - assuming the end result, and then working your assumptions on him backwards from there - even worse considering you have ignored his literature that is critical of socialist/communist political theory.
    Furthermore, if he was a marxist one would expect him to support workers who are the victims of terrorists - another logic failure on your behalf.
    You retracted your statement about leftist professors admitting you didn't know of any when you failed to name and cite any - therefore this is just you opinion and a non-factual opinion at that.

    Again you have failed to provide any evidence of any professors attempting to brainwash students - therefore this is just another element of the lightweight thought processes that pass for critical reasoning in your empty head and your hateful little fantasy world.

    If you wish to be taken seriously - ever - instead of merely being considered as an itrritating, vapid, and hateful little child, please attempt the following:

    Provide evidence that the petition demanding WC's reinstatement was supported, published, promoted, or written by a leftist organisation - put up of shut up.

    Provide evidence of 7 university professors who have taught radical proaganda within their classes within the last 12 months - put up or shut up.
     
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  12. Repo Man Valued Senior Member

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    You seem to conflate the support of a person's right to state that opinion with support of the actual opinion. I support the right of the American Nazi Party to march, etc. I find their philosophy repulsive, and do not support it.

    As a university instructor, his students were there by choice. And the pressure that was applied to have him terminated was because of his essay, not because of anything he said in his classes.
     
  13. Cazzo Registered Senior Member

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    So if a professor pulled out a gun and shot some students, that's ok because "they went there by choice" ?

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    Like I said, a responsible educator teaches students without bias. They are not suppose to ABUSE their position to brainwash students with anarchy, communist propoganda, nazi propoganda, etc....
    Yes he may have been pressured to leave because of his plagiarism and/or radical views being pushed in class. My point is a teacher brainwashing
    students with radical propoganda shouldn't be "teaching".
     
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  14. synthesizer-patel Sweep the leg Johnny! Valued Senior Member

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    But then you have never been able to demonstrate particularly robust or clear thought processes have you Cazzo ?
    So the fact that you fail to appreciate or comprehend the fact that other possibilities might exist is hardly cause for anyone who isn't of below average intelligence to beleive there aren't any other possibilities.
     
  15. pjdude1219 The biscuit has risen Valued Senior Member

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    you keep saying this shit you will be reported for for slander/libel
     
  16. Cazzo Registered Senior Member

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    I could see this coming....
    Now it's illegal to point out problems in our education system when far left-wing professors brainwash students with anti-US propoganda.

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    BUT, it's ok to call the U.S. "fascist", or GWB a "Nazi", I see how it is.

    It's apparent what this thread's about has really struck a nerve with a few of the left-wing forumers :
    If the U.S. public were brainwashed the opposite of what they are now, and students were taught politically the opposite, do you think student activist groups would be the opposite too ?
    Instead of pro-Communist university student groups, would we see pro-Nazi university student groups ?

    The truth hurts when put in a different perspective.
     
  17. pjdude1219 The biscuit has risen Valued Senior Member

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    You have no proof. There is no anti-US propaganda being thought in colleges unless you think being thought to think and not blindly follow what your told is anti-american propaganda.

    There is a proof that under the last admin the US was fascists and while not a nazi himself G.W. does have family connections to the nazis.

    The only think that struck a nerve here is your stupidity and dishonesty. and yes the truth hurts thats probably why your ignoring it.
     
  18. Repo Man Valued Senior Member

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    Utterly absurd strawman.

    What evidence do you have that he was indoctrinating students with propaganda in his classes? That he expressed rather extremist opinions outside of class isn't evidence that he was doing so in class.

    Critical thinking skills are an essential part of an education. You cannot have a university education without encountering at least one professor that you strongly disagree with. If a student's education hasn't given them the ability to separate the wheat from the chaff as far as opinions and ideas go, then that is a far bigger problem than phantom professors churning out crop after crop of Marxist indoctrinated zombies.
     
  19. synthesizer-patel Sweep the leg Johnny! Valued Senior Member

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    Phantom as in non-existent?
     
  20. Repo Man Valued Senior Member

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    Yes.
     
  21. Cazzo Registered Senior Member

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    There's even a book about the far left-wing influence in America's education system (universities in particular) :

    http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0895260034/ref=nosim/nationalreviewon

    http://www.nationalreview.com/interrogatory/qa200603130909.asp

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    I know, it's written by another "fascist", or "McCarthy"

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    Hmmm, I wonder if there's any books out there about "Nazi" professors in U.S. universities ?
     
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  22. Cazzo Registered Senior Member

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  23. synthesizer-patel Sweep the leg Johnny! Valued Senior Member

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    Anyone can write a book on anything Cazzo - except you perhaps - the publisher will probably not accept manuscripts written in crayon.

    However if this is true then your claims about WC and the campaign to get him reinstated are clearly not true - the petition cited reasons of academic freedom for his reinstatement - following your logic are the logic of this book - no lefty would ever sign it - so it must have only be signed and supported by right wingers.

    How are things in that corner you just painted yourself into ?
     

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