Would Americans elect a Muslim President?

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Would Americans vote for a Muslim Presidential candidate?

  1. I am American and I say Yes

    16.7%
  2. I am American and I say No

    45.8%
  3. I am American and I have some other opinion

    4.2%
  4. I am not American and I say Yes

    8.3%
  5. I am not American and I say No

    20.8%
  6. I am not American and I have some other opinion

    4.2%
  1. shichimenshyo Caught in the machine Registered Senior Member

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    Your like a broken record..and a bad one at that.

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  3. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    I'm sure they'll have all good things to say about y'all.

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  5. shichimenshyo Caught in the machine Registered Senior Member

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    Im sure theirs is the only opinion that matters....oh and yours of course.

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  7. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    Don't worry, nobody cares what I think

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  8. shichimenshyo Caught in the machine Registered Senior Member

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    Dont worry you do, and thats all that matters.

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  9. Norsefire Salam Shalom Salom Registered Senior Member

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    People vote for the most efficient person for the job; as long as the leader has a good sense of morality and tradition and fairness, then so be it.
     
  10. shichimenshyo Caught in the machine Registered Senior Member

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    Thats exactly how I feel

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  11. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    You guys have weird ideas about what constitutes efficiency

    /cheap shot
     
  12. Varda The Bug Lady Valued Senior Member

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    india is soooo efficient, isn't it


    how's that for a cheap shot?
     
  13. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    No problem. We got enough people already.

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  14. Varda The Bug Lady Valued Senior Member

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    efficience != demographic growth
     
  15. shichimenshyo Caught in the machine Registered Senior Member

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    Dont forget widespread diesease and poverty!

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  16. Varda The Bug Lady Valued Senior Member

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    don't be so judgemental shichi... some people like dwelling with rats
     
  17. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    Yeah keep out everybody, its a terrible place!!!!
     
  18. (Q) Encephaloid Martini Valued Senior Member

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    As to the question posed in the poll:

    "Would Americans vote for a Muslim Presidential candidate?"

    That would have to be a resounding yes. There must be Muslims who are American. Many would vote for a Muslim Presidential candidate.

    As to the title question:

    "Would Americans elect a Muslim President?"

    Would he get the Muslim vote? Yup.

    Would he get the Christian vote? Not likely.

    Would he get the Jewish vote? Again...

    Would he get the Atheist vote? Maybe...

    Whoever is leftover won't make much of difference.
     
  19. Fraggle Rocker Staff Member

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    Americans are still grieving over 9/11. That wound has not healed and it will heal slowly. The world's most outspoken Muslims, i.e. the ones we hear, are doing their best to make us believe that the perpetrators of 9/11 represented Islam fairly, and that the world's Muslims as a community want to destroy America. In this climate it's understandable that many of our people are a little ill at ease with Islam and Muslims. So no, there's no way that the next decade or two will be an era of increasing political power for Muslims in America.

    If Iraq were a Christian country the pacifist movement would have already prevailed and our troops would be withdrawn. The reason they're still there is that a lot of Americans still don't quite trust Muslims.
    Nativist Americans have said that about absolutely every new ethnic group that's come here, for the ostensibly valid reason that they have higher fertility rates. What they conveniently ignore is that every one of those ethnic groups assimilates. Some faster than others, but even the "conservative" East Asians intermarry with us at the astonishing rate of around 30%. As soon as any immigration wave ends, the people it brought blend into the population and that ethnic community disappears. My mother grew up in a Bohemian ("Czech") ghetto and remembered Polish, Croatian and other Slavic ghettoes. When I was young there were Italian neighborhoods. Where are those people now? They're still here inside people like me, of typically mixed American ancestry.
    The only reason there is a Mexican community in America is that there is still a high volume of immigration from Mexico. Mexicans intermarry so enthusiastically that it's almost impossible to find anyone you can identify as a third-generation Mexican-American. The Mexican barrios are populated by immigrants and their children, not their grandchildren.

    The same will happen to the Muslim immigrants. Their children will find the beat of our music, the taste of our food, and the freedom of our lifestyle irresistible. Their girls in particular will be the first to defect from their strict traditional families, as the girls of every preceding immigrant group have invariably been. Like my own mother. She didn't learn English until she entered school, but she put tremendous effort into speaking perfectly and losing her accent. By the time I was born she was thoroughly Americanized.

    Most of the Muslims arriving here are from Africa, not the Mideast. Their children quickly learn unaccented English and fairly scamper to join the existing African-American community and embrace its culture. It will be interesting to see if there's a rapprochement between America's "black Muslim" splinter group and the "black" Muslims from Africa.
     
  20. sowhatifit'sdark Valued Senior Member

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    Some related questions and my guesses:

    Would a Jewish candidate get elected?
    Not likely, though a better chance than a Muslim.

    Would an atheist get elected?
    Not a chance in hell.

    Would someone in a wheelchair get elected?
    Small chance, but possible.

    Could a person who is not married be elected?
    Very, very unlikely.

    Could a vegetarian get elected?
    I truly doubt it.

    How about a pagan or a Wiccan?
    Fundanmentalist Christians would be calling the Muslim guy back.

    Someone who described themselves as left-wing?
    If their opponent was an atheist and they weren't?

    A candidate who said they were right wing?
    Their PR people would get upset, but such a candidate has a chance.

    A gay person?
    What was that atheists name again, Harry?

    A gay atheist?
    would have as much chance as a smashed windshield spontaneously returning to an unbroken state.

    Am I suggesting there is a mathematical relationship between homosexuality and entropy?

    I have no idea.
     
    Last edited: Apr 11, 2008
  21. Varda The Bug Lady Valued Senior Member

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    in america, a muslim can run for presidency
    in muslim countries, christians are persecuted and killed

    just sayin
     
  22. Exhumed Self ******. Registered Senior Member

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    That's inaccurate...

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  23. Norsefire Salam Shalom Salom Registered Senior Member

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    Are people elected by their faith or by their skill? Of course, good faith is a sign of a good man (good faith), but ultimately leaders are elected for their skill, while observing morality and perserving what needs to be perserved.

    However, people will be people, and therefore people will be biased; I do not think a Muslim American would have much chance of becoming President.
     

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