World suicide prevention day 2011

Discussion in 'Human Science' started by Asguard, Sep 9, 2011.

  1. Psyche Registered Senior Member

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    Barring freak birth defects afflicting the brain, there is nothing innate in human nature that drives a person towards violent behavior (against self or others). The reason for this is that organisms are inextricably driven towards achieving healthy equilibrium with their environment. They can only fully succeed at this task if the environment is nurturing, and safe, as well as compatible with it's needs and creative energies. Destructive drives only arise in the consciousness of a person as a survival response to threats or the initiation of violence by others against him so as to better anticipate and avoid further injury. What takes place thereafter is identity enmeshment in which the person afflicted is incapable of separating their true and genuine sense of self with the foreign invaders which have corrupted their belief in their ability to effect reality, or to internally regulate their own moods without the need of unhealthy external substitutes. Because of this, it is most certain that what afflicts the vast majority of suicidal people is that they been living under the tyranny of internalized abusers, probably for as long as they have had autobiographical awareness, and have never found any sane environment in which to engage in the therapeutic healing process.

    Consequently, they can conceive of no other way of escaping the pent up rage, despair, and remorse that has sabotaged and destroyed the once boundless exuberance they experienced as small children, than by killing themselves.

    Given the extraordinary gap between what is known about developmental psychology as compared to the type of crap that is actually inflicted on the young, I make the case that it is only by embarking on a path of self-knowledge that one can really understand how utterly predictable, and hence preventable, suicidal tendencies are. It is all too evident from much of what I have read and experienced that far too many of people go through their entire lives impostors, never really able to authentically connect to their own hearts or those of others. This is especially true for men, who are socially conditioned to repress their emotions and put on a mask of stoicism and bravado, leading to entire lives populated with superficial relationships, endless addiction chasing, and substitution of the lack of nurturing attachments with empty achievements which never truly fill the void, along with the pointless repetition of other avoidance mechanisms that persists all too often until death. Hardcore addiction to illusion is epidemic. Suicidal people are simply on the extreme end of a continuum that also includes everyone.
     
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  3. Orleander OH JOY!!!! Valued Senior Member

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    or they turn to religion
     
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  5. Watcher Just another old creaker Registered Senior Member

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    There may be a correlation between intelligence and suicide.

    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/health/features/article996719.ece

    Here's an excerpt from the previous source::

    "...Jamaica, with a low average IQ of 72, has suicide rates of 0.5 for men and 0.2 for women (all suicide figures are per 100,000 person-years). Albania, with an average IQ of 90, has low suicide rates of 2.9 and 1.7. Germany by contrast, with its average IQ of 102, has suicide rates of 21.8 and 8.3; Japan, with an average IQ of 105, has suicide rates of 25 and 12."
     
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  7. chimpkin C'mon, get happy! Registered Senior Member

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    Um... that only holds true for abuse victims.
    I'm not sure what percentage of people are organically depressed for purely internal reasons.
    I'm sorry, not everyone's an abuse survivor, some people are just organically nutty.

    Not to say abuse isn't underestimated and under-reported.
    Remorse...interesting way of describing self-loathing.
     
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  8. CptBork Robbing the Shalebridge Cradle Valued Senior Member

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    Who's to define what actually constitutes abuse?
     

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