word origins - people's names.

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  1. mathman Valued Senior Member

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    Shrapnel and sandwich are common words, named after inventors. Others?
     
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  3. Walter L. Wagner Cosmic Truth Seeker Valued Senior Member

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  5. James R Just this guy, you know? Staff Member

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    Not necessarily inventors, but here are some common words named after people:

    guillotine
    pasteurisation
    bowdlerise
    boycott
    cardigan
    casanova
    chauvinism
    caesarian
    gerrymander
    leotard
    martinet
    masochism
    sadism
    pompadour
    quisling
    sideburns
    wellingtons
    ritzy
    saxophone
    bloomers
    dunce

    There are lots of scientific units named after scientists, like:

    Celcius
    Joule
    Fahrenheit
    farad
    faraday
    gauss
    gray
    coulomb
    henry
    curie
    decibel
    Kelvin

    Foods:

    pavlova
    stroganoff
    praline

    From characters in plays and books:

    hooligan
    malapropism
     
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  7. James R Just this guy, you know? Staff Member

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    Also, there are lots of adjectives referring to people, like:

    abrahamic
    aegean
    American
    Aristolean
    Augustinian
    bacchanalian
    benedictine
    boolean
    Byronic
    Christian
    Cyrillic
    Daliesque
    Dantesque
    Darwinian
    Davidian
    Cartesian
    Dickensian
    Edwardian
    Euclidean
    eupicurian
    fallopian
    Faustian
    Fortean
    Freudian
    Galilean
    gargantuan
    Gregorian
    Hamiltonian
    herculean
    hermaphroditic
    hermetic
    Hippocratic
    Hobbsian
    Holmesian
    Homeric
    Humean
    Kafkaesque
    Kantian
    Lagrangian
    Lorentzian
    Machiavellian
    Maoist
    martial
    Marxist
    McCarthyist
    Napoleonic
    Oedipal
    ohmic
    Orwellian
    Panglossian
    Promethean
    Ptolemaic
    pyrrhic
    protean
    Pythagorean
    Pythonesque
    Rubenesque
    sadistic
    satanic
    Saturnine
    Shakespearean
    Sisyphean
    Socratic
    stentorian
    thespian
    titanic
    vestal
    Victorian
    Wagnerian
     
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  8. exchemist Valued Senior Member

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    Wellington, hence wellies.
    Poubelle (French for dustbin)
    Hoover (vacum cleaner)
    Crap
     
  9. sweetpea Valued Senior Member

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    Archimedes' screw
    Pasteurisation
    The Beaufort scale
    Adam's apple??
     
  10. Dinosaur Rational Skeptic Valued Senior Member

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    There was a time when folks had only one name like John, Joseph, or Peter.

    To distinguish various folks named John in a small town or neighborhood, People would say John the blacksmith or John the silversmith, or Peter the son of John..

    When local politicians needed to keep better records (EG: for Tax collection data), they required folks to have an extra name. This resulted in last names like the following.

    John Smith & John Peterson​

    The above is the reason for Smith becoming a very common name: There are a lot of professions using Smith in the title: Black smith, silver smith, gold smith.

    The above is the reason for many last names ending in son.
     
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  11. sweetpea Valued Senior Member

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    In Wales UK a common surname is said to be Jones, and so...

    A Russian spy was dropped by parachute in the Welsh hills with instructions to contact a Mr Jones in the small village of Llanfair and give him the coded message: “The tulips are blooming well today.”
    Arriving at the village he asked a small boy where Mr Jones lived and was directed to a small cottage.
    He knocked on the door and the owner emerged: “Are you Mr Jones?”
    “I am.”
    “The tulips are blooming well today.”
    Mr Jones stared at him in amazement then smiled: “Ah, you must have the wrong house.
    “It's Jones the Spy you want.”
     
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  12. Dinosaur Rational Skeptic Valued Senior Member

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    Almost all last names had some particular meaning long ago. For example.

    My last name is Cadwallader (Welsh), which meant strategist (actually battle planner) in the distant past. I am not sure if the word still has that meaning in modern Welsh.​

    BTW: The English were (perhaps still are) clever in sneaky ways.

    There was a time when England & Wales fought over sovereignty. Hundreds of years ago (when some English king was circa 35-40), The English proposed that Wales accept England as sovereign with the promise that a prince of Wales would always be chosen as the next king of England after the demise of the current king.

    The above seemed like a good deal to the Welsh.

    20-40 years later, Wales & England were completely integrated, with the Welsh having no army or police force of their own. From that time on, The English king has always appointed some English noble to be a prince of Wales & later appoints him to be king of England.

    England always appoints some member of the royal family to be the Prince of Wales & that prince becomes the King of England.

    In modern times the above is not particularly important, but there was a long period of time when it was important.
     
  13. mathman Valued Senior Member

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    My understanding of history was that Edward I promised to appoint someone who did not speak English as the Prince of Wales. He then appointed a baby, his infant son. Since then the heir to the throne (usually the king's son) has always been the prince of Wales
     
  14. nebel Valued Senior Member

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    Just a sad note to the Toronto Tragedy linked to german, there the word for dangerous is gefaehrlich, from the root fahren, to travel, to Gefaehrt, vehicles, possibly drawn by a horse. pferd. safer to stay home. dangers lurk outside.
    very interesting list of origins !!!
     
  15. NotEinstein Valued Senior Member

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    Except that's not true:
    https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/gefährlich#Etymology
    comes from:
    https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Gefahr#German
    comes from:
    https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/fara#Old_High_German
    comes from:
    https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Reconstruction:Proto-Germanic/fērō
     
  16. nebel Valued Senior Member

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    well, perhaps gefahr came from the dangers associated with fahren to travel.
    Thought of another one while puttering in the garden:
    Traffic in german is Verkehr, from verkehrt, gone wrong. haha. some genius back then foresaw gridlock.
     
  17. NotEinstein Valued Senior Member

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    Might I suggest you look at the links I posted a bit closer, because they already point out the falsehoods in your reply.
     
  18. nebel Valued Senior Member

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    bold added for emphasis
    Yeah, I did and obviously I took the connection one step deeper. should have posted in the funny section.
    not falsehoods, funnies. one not do funny, coming for me in the next 30 years is:
    sterben, from starving. dying because of lack of oxygen, nutrients, nerve impulses.
     
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  19. NotEinstein Valued Senior Member

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    Please explain the joke in the part I quoted. Additionally, it being meant as a joke doesn't mean it's not false.
     
  20. nebel Valued Senior Member

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  21. NotEinstein Valued Senior Member

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    I couldn't help but notice you're reading from the "Swedish" section. That's not what the link is pointing to; notice the section-name in the URL. Perhaps you should scroll up a bit, to the "German" section. You know, German, the language you were talking about?

    I guess one of us indeed needs to "think before they try to make a stink."

    Ah, it was funny to you, but you can't explain it. And perhaps it was deeply true to you, but it is false for everyone else. It must be frustrating, living in your own world with your own truth that you can't explain to others.

    Go right ahead; you're free to do so. Just don't be surprised if your falsehoods are corrected there as well.
     
  22. nebel Valued Senior Member

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    From Old Swedishfara, from Old Norsefara, from Proto-Germanic*Pfaraną, from Proto-Indo-European*por-(“going, passage”).
    The more language realized the danger in travelling the better. The vikings, the Dutch deutsch were great travellers fahren macht erfahren von den gefahren.
    erfahren, experienced comes from travel too.
    hope this is tolerated on an new english, not proto english site.
     
  23. NotEinstein Valued Senior Member

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    So you're just going to ignore that you're wrong, and continue spouting this nonsense? Looks like I was right indeed: you are "living in your own world with your own truth". Good luck with that.
     

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