Women Turn on Oprah for Supporting Obama

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  1. sandy Banned Banned

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  3. cosmictraveler Be kind to yourself always. Valued Senior Member

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    How do they know its women? Whenever I recieve messages I never know who is sending them so how can they determine that they are women only?
     
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  5. John99 Banned Banned

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    You will see that the harshest critics of Hillary are going to be women. Just wait and see.
     
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  7. Exhumed Self ******. Registered Senior Member

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    Hm, I hope this gets some media attention. It would sort of counter the problems Obama had about race. Such women would be a negative association for the Clinton campaign.

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  8. sandy Banned Banned

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    You have to register to post on Oprah's website. I would bet that at least 90% of her readers/posters are women.
     
  9. John99 Banned Banned

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    Just wait until that prehistoric competition thing rears its head, Its gonna be brutal.
     
  10. sandy Banned Banned

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    Agreed. If it's Romney vs. Clinton there will be so much anti-Mormon bs
    our heads will spin.

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    If it's McCain, they will attack his being a POW, his health, and God knows what else.

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    The Repubs will just attack Hillary for her record.

    I remember '00 and '04. Fun but exhausting...
     
  11. Myles Registered Senior Member

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    That says it all. I woder if any of the candisates has read The Secret/
     
  12. Ganymede Valued Senior Member

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    If Oprah endorsed Hillary then Blacks would hate her more then they already do. Oprah does to much pandering to the white community, and when she denounced rap music as hate speech, she lost the younger generation. Here's a very poetic summarization of how Blacks feel about Oprah, from Canibus, a supreme lyricist, and Iraq Veteran.


     
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    Oprah probably doesn't like rap because it is tasteless. Good for her.
     
  14. Bells Staff Member

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    Her record? So a Republican, such as yourself, will only attack her for her record? Hmmm... Interesting.. Should I assume her menstrual cycle has suddenly become a part of her record? Since you know, you have a slight obsession with 'attacking' her for it.

    And then of course there was the time when you said you didn't care about her menstrual cycle, just her "dark heart and evil spirit". Tell me, is that part of her record as well?

    Oh, wait.. back on her menstrual cycle. Again, is this part of her political record?

    For lack of a better term..

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    I said "the Repubs will just attack her for her record." I didn't say "I" would just attack her for her record. I don't like anything about her. She's vile.

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    And most secular rap sucks. Good for Oprah for saying so.

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  16. mountainhare Banned Banned

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    sandy, do you think they should perform an exorcism on Hilary to drive out the evil within her?
     
  17. Ganymede Valued Senior Member

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    Ha ha, look at what Rossane Barr said about Oparah.

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22597864/
     
  18. mountainhare Banned Banned

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    If you vote for Hillary, you're a racist. If you vote for Obama, you're a sexist. If you vote for McCain, you're a sexist and a racist.

    It's a lose/lose/lose situation all over again!
     
  19. Bells Staff Member

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    Heh.

    I'm picturing an exorcism with Bob Larson a la John Safran style.
     
  20. Asguard Kiss my dark side Valued Senior Member

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    "i draw those socialized medical ideas out of you, out, out devil"

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  21. Tiassa Let us not launch the boat ... Valued Senior Member

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    Truth/power

    There is truth in this. And I think that's part of the way it should be. The only doubt I have about the propriety is that the common bond is womanhood.

    But aside from that, I think one of the hardest questions facing liberals would be not only to gain the White House but for the people to also hand them a proper supermajority in Congress, or at least a cloture majority. The more power placed in the hands of the Democrats, the greater the liberal obligation to remind those politicians of the demands of that party affiliation. Democrats of the modern age have struggled to fulfill a certain mythical expectation, and whether it was ever fair to brand them as liberals, the Democrats are where liberal voters have chosen to invest their faith. So it should be that if the disparate factions of the Democratic coalition—greens, labor, socialists/communitarians, peaceniks, equal justice, feminists, &c.—will coalesce in order to invest that kind of authority in the Party, they will also be the ones who carry the burden of keeping that power in line.

    It's part of the liberal sense of pride. The GOP may lockstep come the ballot box, but their game is strictly about power. We on the left perceive absolutely no integrity in the conservative coalition. The hard capitalists will compromise with the social conservatives in order to profit by the votes. The evangelicals will attempt to exploit the fiscal conservatives in order to augment their sense of dominion. Both will pander to the libertarians for votes. And never do any of them ever take a step back. Thus, while we know a Republican administration like Bush/Cheney will never pay attention to serious criticism, we must demand integrity of the coming Democratic administration.

    The more liberal one gets, the greater the obligation.

    And well it could be with feminism and women. One of the things many of my generation heard during our youths in America was a strange denigration of minorities. Dr. King, according to some, is an example of what's wrong with black people. He cheated on his wife, which is apparently a bigger offense against his blackness than it is his role as a minister. After all, there are no adulterous white ministers, right? I actually asked a friend of mine, who is of an older generation, about a certain irony in the Bush administration. And no, my generation is not alone in this. We're painfully aware of a faction that would look at the diversity of the Bush administration as a testament against minorities. Rod Paige? Black man? Secretary of Education? Called teachers terrorists. Margaret Spellings? His successor? Woman? Corrupt. Used her office to attempt inappropriate content control. Condi Rice? Black woman? Secretary of State? One of the biggest lying sacks of crap in decades. A freakin' poodle. A lap dog to a corrupt administration. Her predecessor? Colin Powell? Once the most popular and powerful black man in American politics? He may well still be, but his reputation is seriously damaged because, after all, he strolled on down to the U.N. and, oh, lied in order to foment war. Alberto Gonzales? I would hope nobody's forgotten that debacle.

    More than their sex or ethnic heritage is the fact that they are all Republicans, and the fact that, when their nation most needed them, they sold us out. But I'm of a generation that remembers an old racist argument, that these folks are perfect examples of why you don't give minorities power. While most of us would not bother even trying to pretend there's an ethnic aspect to it, many are still haunted by the suggestion—most likely exaggerated by time and sharpened by cynicism—to the other.

    And so the women are feeling the pressure. There is a joke, and a fair one, about the rude awakening for the feminists when they started getting their way. In trying to be like men in the workplace, the feminists eventually discovered that they were not, by their labors, emerging from denigration. Rather, it turns out they were attempting, at best, to trade a sex-based denigration for the general hatred and humiliation of the American workplace. (And that, incidentally, is where a good deal of the problem still lies; there is an inherent sexism about the culture that we have not yet transcended, and it is difficult for many, including some feminists, to tell the difference between specific misogyny and general misanthropy.)

    Thus, while Hillary has the chance to break one of the most hallowed glass ceilings in American society, she will—for her vagina—be subject to extraordinary scrutiny above and beyond the demands on any other president. Including Bill.

    Sadly, we can expect right-wing media outlets to emerge as the leading forces in the Inquisition. It should be liberals in general, and perhaps feminists in particular. But their voices will only serve as fodder for exploitation by FOX, hate radio, and paranoid newsletters.

    As to Oprah? I think it's disappointing that society in general hasn't turned against her brand of bullsh@t. If they're going to make it a black vs. woman thing, whatever. It's freakin' Oprah Winfrey.
     
  22. Ganymede Valued Senior Member

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    Perception is reality, ever read any of Dr. Wayne Dyers Books? They would do you some good.
     
  23. VRob Registered Senior Member

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    Billary was dispicable last night in the debates.

    Apparently, she's now campaigning from the Karl Rove handbook.
     

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