women are always victims?

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Ah, not if he didn't know she was unconscious, Bells! If he was drunk, he might well have not even known that she was or wasn't conscious (...some women are like that during sex!). And the man was just plowing away, perfectly happy to be having sex with something other than his hand!

Baron Max

 

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but getting stupor drunk is irresponsible in the first place. you don't have control of all your faculties and could do anything including drunk driving.

you may not intentionally have meant to kill but drinking til your almost unconscious or incomprehending is socially irresponsible just as the woman who drinks to unconsciousness. it doesn't excuse her or him. they are both wrong by negligence.

alcoholism is one of the worst vices to the mind and the health.

 

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umm bells that wasnt the question he was answering though

 

Asguard, its called responsibility.
You can't drive and use alcohol as your excuse.
You cant get into a physical altercation and use alcohol as an excuse.
And you can't fuck an unconscious person and use alcohol as an excuse.

I really wonder why you are continually worried about who you can and can't rape.

 

reponcability?
what responcability does a women have for fucking a drunk man?
aparently none based on the AG comments.

 

How many men here have been taken advantage of while drunk? And was it a crime in the 18th century to take advantage of a drunk man?

 

He didn't get into trouble for having sex while drunk. The guy got into trouble for having sex with an unconscious person.

If its a huge worry for you, quit having sex while drunk.

 

Drunk and unconscious do. Also when you first fall asleep does. I assure you, no one will hassle you in any noticable way if you rape some one while dead.

And this is why you rape people?

Actually it is: if one person is fucking and the other is passed out, its a man. Men go limp when passed out on booze.

 

notice you twisted my words, i find that highly amusing. Anyway goodbye, there is no point talking to someone who refuses good faith

 

maybe she's a bit of a starfish in the sack to begin with

 

Isn't there a recognised fetish for pretending to be a corpse whilst having sex? Maybe he thought she was into some freaky shit. :shrug:

 

or maybe he was raping her

 

The sex began as consensual so the important question is did he notice her unconsciousness before it was over? In their drunk state I doubt she was being particularly vocal or active anyways so how would he notice?

Did she actually become unconscious or can she just not remember it happening?

 

The reason the man is responsible is because the man is the one who is thrusting himself on the woman, usually. The woman in this case just lied there asleep... while the guy humped her.

 

Hmm, is it illegal for a woman to fall asleep while a man is fuckin' her?

Hell, most of the women I knew in my younger life did that all the time! Wait 'til I tell 'em that it was illegal. ...LOL!

Baron Max

 

Can't you show some damn tolerance?

His posts are quite intelligible.

I don't expect him to go to the trouble of writing all his posts up in a word processing program first then spell check and cut and paste here.

 

Tolerance? ...LOL! VI, I've seen yuou rip someone up one side and down the other, threatening to rip out their testicles through their throat, for a lot less infraction than poor spelling and grammar!

What the hell, VI, you gettin' soft in your old age?

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Baron Max

 

Can't say I'm surprised.

 

Some rare men do, most men are still perfectly hard after losing conciousness and most men attain erection while sleeping,