Woman Kills Husband Over Porn Video

Discussion in 'Ethics, Morality, & Justice' started by madanthonywayne, Sep 11, 2010.

  1. madanthonywayne Morning in America Registered Senior Member

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    Shellyann Henry, a 32 year old married mother of three, found a porn video in her house. She then grabbed a kitchen knife and stabbed her husband in the chest!
    The father is dead and the mother is now in jail, leaving their children essentially orphans. Over a porn video?

    Even taking into account the fact that there may have been other factors at play not mentioned in the article; does this make sense on any level except insanity?
     
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  3. Pinwheel Banned Banned

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    Maybe the previous tenants left it behind.
     
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  5. alephnull you can count on me Registered Senior Member

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    Wow. Just, wow.

    I wonder what the porno actually was.
     
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  7. WillNever Valued Senior Member

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    Pointless article. It's rather obvious that some other pre-existing, underlying issue between the couple was at work in this event.
     
  8. spidergoat Venued Serial Memberlist Valued Senior Member

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  9. madanthonywayne Morning in America Registered Senior Member

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    This was the first time the police were called (so there's no documented history of abuse), but a neighboor did describe the dead husband as "abusive". We'll see if that holds up in court.
     
  10. cosmictraveler Be kind to yourself always. Valued Senior Member

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    Many men want their wives to do what the porn star women do but many women do not enjoy taking it "up the ass" as it were as well as many other sexual things. This is a reason many problems occur when men view porn videos thinking that their wives will do anything that other women will do. Many families , I do not know how many, have broken up because of sexual problems.
     
  11. wsionynw Master Queef Valued Senior Member

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    Time of the month is a bitch.
     
  12. Bells Staff Member

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    Some victims of domestic violence never call the police, due to social factors (the stigma attached to domestic abuse, facing being a single parent, fear of loss of support from friends and family, etc) and out of fear that they not only won't be helped, but they also fear reprisal when the other is released, etc.

    Often in cases where death is a result, it will be the first time that the authorities will hear of the abuse. This may or may not be the case here.

    But one thing that we should all consider is that the porn dvd was not the sole cause of this and there may have been other factors involved in the whole incident.

     
  13. Michael 歌舞伎 Valued Senior Member

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    heh,.,, that's what I was thinking

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  14. James R Just this guy, you know? Staff Member

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    Maybe that was the precipitating event, but it's hardly likely to be the full story.
     
  15. nietzschefan Thread Killer Valued Senior Member

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    Do you even have a woman to hold your balls in a jar?
     
  16. James R Just this guy, you know? Staff Member

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    I'm sorry, I'm not sure what you're asking.

    It sounds a lot like an uninvited personal question posed in an impolite manner though.

    Toddle along now.
     
  17. Asguard Kiss my dark side Valued Senior Member

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    i love the irony of the fact that because its a wife kills husband then he was oviously abusive or she insane where as if man kills wife there would be no empathising with the killer only the victom.

    It was interesting watching a "Cops" show the other day when the cops were called out to a young couple domestic violence and the female partner was arested. It took her mother or father (cant rember which) who was a domestic violence couciler to beet into her head that she was now a domestic violence offender, she was going to jail for it and it was going on HER record. She was blaze when talking to the cops basically saying "yea i hit him, so what, i can do that if i want, HE WAS ASKING FOR IT"
     
  18. Bells Staff Member

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    Ermm who has said this?

    What I and many others have pointed out was that the neighbours and "witnesses" have stated that he was abusive and witnesses have said that he pulled the knife on her first and threatened to cut her. In which case it could be self defense. We won't know until it goes to trial, if it goes to trial. If they find that she was defending herself, then she may very well get off.

    So she is abusive...

    While the title of this thread is a tad misleading in that people are led to believe that she did kill him because of porn, there were obviously way waayyy many other issues at play here. All we have is what the police and witnesses have divulged over what happened and had happened before. Has nothing to do with what you saw on a TV show.

    You seem angry that this woman may very well be a victim of domestic abuse.:shrug:
     
  19. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    So did the husband or wife star in the video?
     
  20. Asguard Kiss my dark side Valued Senior Member

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    no bells, im annoyed at the assumption. she will be concidered innocent till she is proven guilty but hes concidered guilty until proven innocent. Look at whats happened in Australia recently 3 cases recently of female partner kills male and from those 3 i dont think ANY where she was found guilty. Sure better 100 go free... but the system is broken. Recently there was a study done which found that (and these figures are from memory) 20% of men though that a women deserved it if she was hit. There was OUTRAGE in the Advertiser about it, how in this day an age could anyone assume that a victom of domestic violence deserved it. However a letter to the editor the next day from the head of the men's health foundation was quite intersting. As he pointed out 80% belived that she didnt deserve it but the same study found that 67% of people belived that if a women hit a man then HE deserved it.

    Thats more than half (well more than half, if that was election results i think the only polie who came close to that margin was Turnbul) belive that its ok to hit your male partner and this same statistic keeps being replicated in the number of women who are convicted of murder when the male partner is killed.

    Now its nice to see that mens health issues are finally comming out of the closet (this letter followed an artical a couple of days before on the disparity in brest cancer to prostate cancer funding) but its still a joke that the automatic assumptions are that in domestic murder cases either way there is an assumption that the male partner is violent (and either thats why she killed him or thats why he killed her).

    Edit to add: especially concidering that the police say that the biggest motive for murder is finatial
     
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    Which assumption annoys you Asguard?

    That she killed him because she found a porn DVD? That she killed him because she apparently didn't want to be like a porn star? That she killed him because she was apparently 'in that time of the month'? Or that witnesses and neighbours have advised and described that the relationship was abusive and that the neighbours and witnesses could recount that he had been abusive towards her in the past and that he had pulled a knife on her first and threatened to cut her - which is not an assumption by the way?

    So which one annoys you?

    Which 3 Asguard?

    Are you upset that if a woman is found to have been battered for many years and finally defends herself against her abuser and ends up killing him, that it indicates that the system is broken because she is found not guilty of murder?

    In this instance, witnesses have said that he pulled the knife on her first and threatened to cut her. If that did happen, then she did not commit murder but defended herself.

    Which has what to do with this thread?

    This woman may have defended herself against an abuser who was threatening her with a knife. I would imagine that 99% would find that she was defending herself.

    As for the survey... It is a different subject matter. We both know that men do not deserve to be abused in their home. So what exactly are you trying to say to me here? That she should have let him cut her?

    The only time that a woman has 'gotten away' with killing her partner or ex is if it was found that she had been subjected to years of abuse and suffering from psychological and mental trauma as a result of the sustained and consistent abuse. I do not see a correlation between that and women getting away with murder. Most women who kill their partners in Australia end up going to jail. Very few are able to 'get off' because of domestic abuse.

    Which has nothing to do with this thread Asguard.

    What we have here is a thread about a possibly abused woman maybe defending herself against an abusive partner and then we have you jumping to even more conclusions and wailing on women who abuse men and how women get away with murder, etc. Do you think that is appropriate? And then, to make it even better, you start going on about men's health issues - something completely irrelevant and off topic. If you want to discuss the equality of men and women in the legal system and health system, you could start another thread maybe?

    We know the system is not fair to both sides. But complaining about women getting away with murder, in a thread about a woman who hasn't even faced trial yet and been found guilty or innocent, complaining about what the witnesses witnessed - that she was abused - and somehow discounting it and bringing up how often men are abused, etc.. really.. Are you serious?

    Why don't you wait for the trial of this woman, wait for the evidence to be presented, before you start wailing about women getting away with murder in domestic violence cases where women are abused and defend themselves by sometimes killing the partner, eh?

    Amongst other things.

    This hasn't gone to trial yet and no one knows any more than what has been presented in this thread. She may have been abused and she may not have been. If she was defending herself, as witnesses have claimed, then no, she should not be found guilty.
     
  22. visceral_instinct Monkey see, monkey denigrate Valued Senior Member

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    If it really was over a porn DVD, then yes, I can only assume insanity.

    If she was defending herself after years of abuse, I do sympathize with her. And not because of gender, but because she's a motherfucking human being. I would sympathize with a male, too, if he stabbed someone to death after years of violence.
     
  23. Cifo Day destroys the night, Registered Senior Member

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    What truly startles me is that the police easily determined that this rated only a second-degree murder charge instead of first-degree. And are we really supposed to believe that a woman used a pair of scissors to fatally stabbed a man who had a knife in his hand?

    If one party (supposedly the wife here) is a perfectly innocent victim, then there's very little "fighting". He might bellow and/or smack her, and then she submits. The word "fighting" says that both parties typically engaged in verbal/physical aggression. Over 100 domestic violence studies have shown equal assault rates for both men and women. Men initiate about ¼ of domestic violence episodes, women initiate about ¼ of the episodes, and both parties mutually initiate about ½ of the episodes. And this is according to both men and women. Also, although men are physically stronger, women use weapons much more often as a force equalizer, with stabbing weapons as their weapon of choice.

    And here she is, claiming to have suddenly stumbled upon some porn and that he supposedly initiated the violence by brandishing a knife, which he supposedly did not use on her, yet she was able to inflict a fatal wound upon him. Pretty lucky to inflict a fatal wound with one plunge, while not being cut by the knife he was supposedly wielding.
     

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