Winds of Change

Discussion in 'History' started by S.A.M., Mar 18, 2010.

  1. Shadow1 Valued Senior Member


    i think the historical events that shaped our history are:

    the christ,
    islam, and arabic civilisation, wich it taked the world out of darkness, also romans, and chinese, also persian
    the arab empire falling,
    europe golden ages,
    world wars,
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  3. imhotep Registered Member

    yes, but only to the aristocracy. which then over time trickled down to the masses, giving us the latin portion of our language. :shrug:
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  5. River Ape Valued Senior Member

    Expulsion from the Garden of Eden
    Utilization of fire and inventions of flint-knapping and cooking
    Defeat of Neanderthals

    Nothing of vital importance has happened recently.

    How utterly parochial!

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  7. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

    The cotton gin. It ushered in the industrial revolution.
  8. iceaura Valued Senior Member

    No, it didn't.

    Things kept going the way they had been going before and after the cotton gin. If the Confederacy had won the the US Civil War we might be looking at more profound significance for the the cotton gin - but it didn't.
  9. Enmos Valued Senior Member

    No one mentioned Napoleon?
  10. Enmos Valued Senior Member

    I take it you are using 'the world' as a synonym for 'humanity'?
    In that case:
    - controlling fire
    - invention of cooking
    - invention of hunting/crafting weaponry
    - invention of language
    - etc.
  11. Shadow1 Valued Senior Member


    oh, effcorse, he wanted to own the hall world, also hitler, the person that caused a world war,

    but i don't think winds of changes, that affected deeply our present is just war, like, the invention of the wheel, or, the electricity, or the maths, by indians, or the chemistry, etc etc etc...
  12. Dredd Dredd Registered Senior Member

    As to this century, the lies and wars which began it, coupled with the rejection of the views of our neighbors (world opinion, world scholarship, and world rights) set us on a different historical path and direction than we otherwise would have gone.
  13. w1z4rd Valued Senior Member


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  14. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

    Narrow in scope. Thats the meaning he's using.If you ever belong to a parish you should know how limited their concerns are.
  15. Fraggle Rocker Staff Member

    Yes. 1066 was the year of the Norman Invasion and that was the pivotal battle. What it did bring, in a roundabout way, was the current system of government. The Normans were never overthrown, they simply assimilated into the native population, intermarried and adopted their language, the same way the Mongols did in their conquered territories. From 1066 until today there has been a more-or-less unbroken continuity of government in England.
    I guess you picked up more American ways while you were here than I thought.

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    No one outside of our country would say that. In England, starting a few decades earlier, it was:
    • The mechanization of the textile industry, reducing the use of human labor
    • A huge increase in the use of refined coal, reducing the use of animal labor
    • A vast improvement in ironworking techniques
    • Improved transporation via a canal system
    • Finally, the advent of steam power and the manufacturing of precision machine tools in the early to mid-19th century.
    The cotton gin was invented in your country about 1500 years ago. Dual-roller gins appeared in India and China between the 12th and 14th centuries, and by the 16th century the Indian design was widespread in the Mediterranean region, often driven by water wheels, a crude but enduring harbinger of the Industrial Revolution that supplanted musclepower with a different energy source.

    In my own telling of history I identify the pivotal idea underlying the Paradigm Shift of the Industrial Revolution as unlocking the secret of converting chemical energy into mechanical energy, causing a quantum increase in the amount of work civilization could accomplish. Factories and trains are very clever inventions, but they're not worth squat without fuel-burning engines.

    Eli Whitney's mechanized cotton gin was important to the U.S. because it quadrupled our production of cotton in two decades, arguably our main driver of foreign exchange. Unfortunately it also cemented the region where cotton grows--the South--into an agricultural lifestyle, dependent on slave labor. This reinforced its people's quaint image of the South as a time-warped medieval feudal society straight out of an old storybook, with the nobility living in huge mansions surrounded by fields manned by slaves playing the role of the missing yeoman farmers. It has often been argued perversely that Whitney's invention paved the way to the Civil War.
    In the State of Louisiana, where many people still speak (Cajun) French and whose laws are based on the Napoleonic Code rather than English law, the governmental units are called Parishes rather than Counties.
  16. Zephyr Humans are ONE Registered Senior Member

    The Internet.

    Still to come:

    Fusion power.
    Genetic Engineering.
    Artificial Intelligence.
    Space colonization.
  17. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

    No we had an entire chapter on it in history. Cotton was important to India, the British exported Indian cotton to Manchester. It destroyed the local charka industry which Gandhi later resurrected.
  18. Michael 歌舞伎 Valued Senior Member

    Rise of the Himalaya's

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