Macs now ARE PC's really. Mac OS-X? Linux. A PC OS with Apple'ized graphics and Mac specific drivers. The G5 CPU? Made by IBM. Motherboard Architecture? PCI slots, SATA, AGP, USB, DDR RAM . . . all very familier to PC users. And lots more. And, there is nothing wrong with all of this - it only makes snobbery from Mac users all the more silly! Ultimately though, people basing their ego's on the tools they use - is as silly for computer users as it is when hearing Ford Vs. Chevy arguments going on. Kind of a new redneck ethos, the "Computer Redneck"!