windows 8.1

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  1. leopold Valued Senior Member

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    i just went and purchased an acer quad core celeron running win 8.1
    i hope i can slave my current HDD to it.
    if i can, i'll have almost a terabyte of storage (860 gig)

    any comments about this OS?
     
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  3. cosmictraveler Be kind to yourself always. Valued Senior Member

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    I have 8.0 and don't really like it as much as I did Win XP. They say it is better but I don't see how for my Win XP does everything that 8.0 does and, to me, better.
     
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  5. mathman Valued Senior Member

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    Win XP is no longer supported. Windows 7 is fine.
     
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  7. leopold Valued Senior Member

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    i found i couldn't slave my current HDD to the new computer.

    for sale:
    $250 door stop.
    never used.
     
  8. Dr_Toad It's green! Valued Senior Member

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    Dude, put a UEFI aware Linux variant on it and let it be what it should be!
     
  9. cosmictraveler Be kind to yourself always. Valued Senior Member

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    I have 8.0 in my notebook but in my home PC I have 7.0.
     
  10. leopold Valued Senior Member

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    what it should be?
    it SHOULD be at the bottom of a gorge somewhere.
    it would have been better for me to buy a good replacement for my current MOBO.
    i can buy USB sticks for extra storage.
     
  11. cosmictraveler Be kind to yourself always. Valued Senior Member

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    Why not just buy a external HD, they aren't that expensive today and can hold a terabyte.
     
  12. leopold Valued Senior Member

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    it's obvious you have never transferred 300 or so gigabytes of data.
    just my NASA folder has 75 gigabytes of data.
    if i wanted to transfer this stuff i would have burned it to a DVD.

    i guess i COULD transfer it to a USB stick.
    wal-mart sells 32 gig sticks.

    it would help a lot if i wasn't a download junkie.

    just like Pcbasic, i didn't have a folder called basic.
    i now have one with 56 MB of data in it.
     
  13. leopold Valued Senior Member

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    this computer doesn't have any expansion slots.
    it doesn't have any memory slots.
    it also appears to have a SATA HHD.
    the multi drive DVD unit is also SATA.
    it does however have a card reader and it's HDMI ready.

    does anyone have any idea how i can connect my current IDE HHD to the new computer?
    the new computer has no empty SATA connectors
     
  14. C C Consular Corps - "the backbone of diplomacy" Valued Senior Member

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    An HDD from an old PC that just needs an enclosure and an IDE-to-USB adapter for plugging into the new laptop? Purely a random example of what MIGHT be sought, especially since this particular one doesn't even support Win8:

    Has "...Built-in USB2.0 to IDE interface.... Connects a 2.5 hard disk drive easily to any USB port."

    Then there's the "do-it-yourself route", of course:

    How To Build An IDE USB Adapter

    How To Connect an IDE Hard Drive to a Laptop

    How to Convert an IDE Cable to USB Wiring

    How to Make an IDE into a USB Cable
     
  15. leopold Valued Senior Member

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    i appreciate the help CC, but i've decided i'm not using the new computer.
    i hooked it up yesterday to check it out and i absolutely hate the interface.
    i'm used to the "classic windows" style and win 8.1 doesn't even come close to it.
    the windows app i use the most is win explorer, and i found it next to impossible to navigate with this app in 8.1
    unless i can get 8.1 to emulate what i have now, i will never use this new computer.

    microsoft lost their frikken cookies with this one.
    whoever heard of "charms" for such things as control panel . . . dumbasses.

    like i said though, i'll be looking through your links and i'm sure i will be bookmarking some of them for later use.
     
  16. Sarkus Hippomonstrosesquippedalo phobe Valued Senior Member

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    If you're using just a normal PC (i.e. non-touch-screen) I actually think 8.1 is very similar to 7 and XP.
    I initially didn't take to it, especially with 8.0, but 8.1 has tweaked a few things and it's not too bad.
    Just be sure to use the standard desktop rather than the touch-screen version, and it's fairly similar.
     
  17. Billy T Use Sugar Cane Alcohol car Fuel Valued Senior Member

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    I have windows 8.1 heard that for limited time up grade to 10 is free. Will they then charge me monthly to keep it functional? If no, should I up grade?

    BTW, may ASUS is a touch screen - I like that, but the touch pad is to sensitive - accidently does things
     
  18. Sylvester Registered Senior Member

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    I have never used 8. My feeling on it from the very beginning was that since they incorporated touch screen capability it would just cause other things to not work right considering it is\was their first OS. Look at how they rolled out 64bit, the first OS was not true 64bit and same could be said for OS X.

    One thing that always annoyed me about windows installs is there is never an option to install only what you want to install, aside from a few networking choices. Did they ever realize this would solve many issues and use less drive space?

    I would hold out for 10 since it is a second generation with the touch screen\tablet user in mind.

    Slave you HDD? You mean plug it in? You can hot swap SATA with no issues. Cannot recommend that if you are standing on a rug though or maybe even a puddle of water and for that matter a wet rug could be deadly.
     
  19. leopold Valued Senior Member

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    i believe microsoft has tried to make "windows installs" idiot proof.
    there is also the need of the software to determine what hardware is present.
    you can make the install process ask the op for this info or you can auto include it.
    you must admit that a lot of people aren't exactly "computer savvy".
    what do you wind up with?
    an install process that installs everything it needs for any piece of hardware that isn't auto included.
    i've installed fedora 6 and found i needed help doing it, windows does this stuff automatically.
    i haven't had the computer online yet, but i simply don't like the way it's laid out.
    it's still sitting there, on the shelf.
    i might use it, i might not.
    i might even trade it for a good replacement MOBO for my current machine.
    i like my WIN XP.
    i've had almost no problems with it crashing, this computer has run for weeks without a restart.
    basically.
    i already have the master for the boot drive.
    if i used it in my current machine then i would need to slave it to the cd-rom ide cable.
    the new drive is SATA, not IDE.
    as crazy as it sounds, standing on a wet rug would be the ideal condition to swap a drive.
    remember, the idea is to ground yourself.
    well, that isn't true either.
    the idea is to make both you and the machine at the same potential.
    grounding is the most obvious and probably the easiest way of doing this.
     

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