Will you buy electric car?

Discussion in 'Free Thoughts' started by Saint, Oct 21, 2018.

  1. spidergoat Liddle' Dick Tater Valued Senior Member

    I'm trying to do more with less. My turbo 2.0 liter isn't bad either. But electric motors have gobs of torque. As soon as batteries improve, your V8 is toast.
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  3. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

    formula 1 cars that go around 300kmph are only around a 2000cc engine size.

    so the technology is there.
    a top quality gear box is probably a good thing.
    using massive amounts of oil products which creates pollution seems to be ignored by the majority of people currently
    the current blame game is being labelled as plastic bags.

    what is not reported widely in the media is the massive amount of pollution created by tiny plastic balls in all the skin care and hair care products that are washed down the drains and straight into the ocean where fish are forced to eat them and they go into the human food chain.

    there are other really bad sources also.

    it appears the majority of the worlds 1st 2nd & 3rd world people are no interested in generating an alternate to petrolium plastic use.
    they appear to be quite happy with murdering their great great grand children by knowingly polluting the food and water sources.
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  5. Bowser Namaste Valued Senior Member

    A Prius would be cool, but I can't afford one. I've driven a Tesla several times. They are not very intuitive. I've actually reached the point where I'm fine using public transportation as long as it will get me to work, and possibly renting a car for those few times that I really need one. Owning a car is looking more like a liability and less a luxury.
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  7. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

    greedy capitalists have attempted to pervert society & culture by manipulating car drivers to take as much money off them as possible.
    it is a subversive somewhat covert ideology leveraging independance at a price to financial ability.
    much is the american social classcist abuse of those who use busses.
    "taking the buss" in the usa is percieved as being a poor persons subjective punishment for being poor.
  8. Bowser Namaste Valued Senior Member

    I like the max rail system. Yeah, it can get weird at times, but that's life in a nutshell. Overall, I save a ton of money. It costs me $100.00 a month to use public transit. Whereas supporting a car: car payment, insurance, gas and maintenance.

    Since using the transit system, I have been evaluating the logic of owning a car. If I wanted to take a long trip, I could always rent a car; otherwise, there's probably a bus or a train that will take me where I want to go.
  9. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

    speaking of US Capitalist moral hypocrisy desgned to exploit money from the working class...
    what type of compulsory insurance do you get with your buss or train ticket ?(interesting conversation)
    a passenger upsets you, sue the transit company.
    the seat is dirty, sue the transit company
    you get sick from using the buss or train sue the transit compamny after they have paid your immediate medical bills ?
    compuslory health insurance for passengers ?

    it is such a weird morality to me
  10. Bowser Namaste Valued Senior Member

    Insurance for those using the system might not be a bad idea. I would consider it since I use the system nearly every day. Theft seems to be the biggest issue. Nearly everyone with a backpack keeps one hand through a shoulder strap while on the train.
  11. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

    if you were in a private vehicle you would blame the driver/owner
    with leveraging of affordability models pandering to corporate billionaire companys having financiial advanteg through cheaper supply.
    then its exploitative of equal access to the market by litigious compulsory insurance.
    which is my main point.

    you should have insurance included with your ticket purchase.
    the fact it isnt included when driver licensing insurance is a compulsory law it is legal and moral hypocrisy of a clascist nature.

    the main injury to the passenger is theft and assault and infection.
    so the compulsory insurance that the company pays should cover that as a normal process.
    the passenger is never in the other vehicle of the ticket purchase so they can never claim from the compulsory insurance
    this makes it legally unethical

    compulsory insurance laws should protect the paying passenger equaly to injury as another driver who is wronged by the transit copany vehicle.
  12. billvon Valued Senior Member

    The owner's.
    Wouldn't that be an example of "US capitalist moral hypocrisy designed to let the working class exploit money from the rich?"
  13. iceaura Valued Senior Member

    Almost every light truck owner in my area has a spare can of gas in the garage - and they throw it in back when they're looking at uncertainty on the day.
    But the situation is not comparable. It's not just that the range is much smaller, charging takes much longer, and stations are sparse, it's also the fact that if you run out of charge by mistake or mechanical issue you are truly stranded.

    Just an example of an overlooked market.
    Cheap beater gas cars get that. In the winter.

    It's the future, sure - but it's not setting up well.
  14. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

    suburben residential private use vehicle ?

    it is quite an interesting situation.
    comparible to the utility companys.
    none of the private companys or corporates want to spend the massive amount of money to build the infastructure.
    yet it is not a USA government process to be in the busines of making money. thus it is giving away hundreds of millions of tax payer dollars to large private companys.
    no politician is going to endorse such an act.
    all the government built utility companies have not been handed back to the government or the investment handed back to the working class tax payers who funded them.

    the working class tax payer is not rich enough to afford to buy an electric car, so its a class war using low income workers wages.
    The low income working class use public transport so they should not be paying for rich upper class benefits for electric vehicles.
    simple ecconomics !

    the idea of using low income working class wages to build it is socialist and considering the massive shift to alt-right pyramid style privatisation, it is at the opposite end of the current social trend.
    climate change or not. the masses will jump off the cliff like lemmings before they give away thier nationalistic concepts of capitalist individualist ecconomic pretense.
  15. billvon Valued Senior Member

    Yep. And in 20 years, cheap beater EV's will get that. And the new ones will go even farther.
  16. Saint Valued Senior Member

    Can you drive e-scooter in town?
  17. Michael 345 New year. PRESENT is 71 years old Valued Senior Member

    If you are meaning the two wheel kid type or a adult Segway l think, not totally sure and to lazy to look up, in Darwin here they are grouped with battery powered elderly scooter (called scooter even with 4 wheels)

    As long as restricted in speed and stay on foot path no licence required

    No problems with elder scooters in shopping mall (some malls hire them out) but no to other types

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  18. billvon Valued Senior Member

    Usually yes.
  19. scorpius a realist Valued Senior Member

    Its not a trend,its doing more with less and also making environment cleaner..
    Exhaust fumes polution kills about 7 milion people each year..
    Driving EV cost 2$ per mile at the most,,plus theres no oil changes and related expenses like on ICEngine powered cars..
    Id buy one today if I could,,Tesla is the best imo as it also has 11.0000 Superchargers Network all over the country making long distance driving easy..

    I think there is f E already,
    also EV rules in places like Pikes peak where its not afected by high elevetaion..
  20. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

    electric cars dont clean as they drive.
    so they are not making the environment cleaner.
    they still use plastic so they inherantly pollute the environment.
    are the tyres made of rubber or petrolium ?(petrolium i would guess)

    Reducing pollution is completely differtent to making things cleaner. more soo when they actualy contribute to pollution even though that contribution is vastly reduced.
  21. Benson Registered Senior Member

    Until technology of the battery improves so a charge just takes a few minutes, swapping the battery for a fully charged one makes sense.

    In theory, the petrol tank on a car is the battery for the engine. Pouring fuel in to recharge it is very quick. Filling up an electric car battery supply is slow.

    Current petrol garages could be adapted to keep charged batteries. Just pull up, swap the battery, pay and drive off. The garage can then service and charge the battery with a combination of improved solar and wind devices and the bulk of the charge from the mains.
  22. billvon Valued Senior Member

    Would you swap your brand new battery - which will be about 40% of the cost of the car - with a four year old one that has only 85% of the capacity?
    Yes, it is slower. You might have to wait 20 minutes instead of 5. I don't see this as a huge barrier to adoption of EV's. Most people can spare 15 extra minutes a few times a year.
  23. dumbest man on earth Real Eyes Realize Real Lies Valued Senior Member

    What Model of Electric Vehicle only requires charging "a few times a year"?

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