Will humans evolve further?

Discussion in 'Science & Society' started by grazzhoppa, Aug 4, 2002.

  1. Ophiolite Valued Senior Member

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    Try using just 4% of your brain and you will be able to figure out that an organ as costly as the brain will not be permitted by evolution to sit idle. (See Electric Fetus's post.)

    I'm not going to do you the dishonour of looking up some google refrences for you on the topic. I am sure you can do that yourself. However, rest assured the 'only use 10% of our brain' is the purest nonsense.

    Can I suggest that someone with the name Science Man needs to be a little more cynical and questioning about what they read and here.
     
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  3. WillNever Valued Senior Member

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    Reproductively maybe. Because we're seeing women in developed countries delay pregnancy until their late 20's, 30's, and even early 40's, I think it's likely that we'll see a gradual increase in a woman's potential childbearing years as women who hit menopause later proliferate their genes more.

    My mother had me and my brothers at 33, 36 (me) and 40 without incident.
     
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  5. So your saying we use less than 10% of our brain? In case you haven't noticed I'm being as questiony as possible. And yes, I did figure we would evolve. When i did the google and ran into this theard I was looking for guesses on characteristic changes of ourselves.

    Edit I am a very questiony person. So questiony that I've even told my math teacher that in the future I would try to find a hole in math. I know that, that sounds very stupid but that isn't the point. The point is I am a very, very, very to infinity, questiony person!
     
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  7. Ophiolite Valued Senior Member

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    No. We use all of our brain. We just don't use all of it all of the time. It depends what we are doing and how complex it is. Try writing a sonnet while balancing on a tightrope and making a quantitative assessment of a rock thin section. There won't be much of your brain that isn't being used from moment to moment.

    I suggest that it is so obvious that nature (i.e. evolution) would not permit only 10% of an expensive organ to be used that you should be able to figure this out by using only a small amount of your brainpower. It was a sarcastic comment designed to emphasise how ridiculous the idea is.

    Questioning is good. Questioning is a cornerstone of science.
     
  8. Lori_7 Go to church? I am the church! Registered Senior Member

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    The OP is a rhetorical question right? Lol. Or is it suggesting impending human extinction?

    I believe that humans will evolve to become one with the universe and each other, and suffering will end.
     
  9. spidergoat Valued Senior Member

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    Humans never stop evolving. Nothing does.
     
  10. ElectricFetus Sanity going, going, gone Valued Senior Member

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    no, but it can definitely slow down, even de-evolve: with todays over populated world stupidity and genetic ailments are no longer hindrance to reproduction, in fact the stupid now breed faster than the intelligent and modern technology has now made it so the marching morons don't die off like they did in wars, famines and plagues like in the good old days which kept the stupid in check with the smart. Without direct technological intervention into our evolutions the world is only going to get dumber and dumber until some catastrophe puts survival of the so called "fittest" back in charge, say nuclear war or a hostile singularity (of course the later makes further evolutions of humans academic, as we will be completely obsolescent).
     
  11. hmm by your statememnt. I wouldn't be suprise if you wanted a nuclear war to happen. That way accroding to your logic, only the smart would find a way to survive it.
     
  12. ElectricFetus Sanity going, going, gone Valued Senior Member

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    Actually I prefer the singularity: Life has no meaning, only machine intelligence is truly important on a cosmic scale.
     
  13. umm does that make you feel suicidal?
     
  14. ElectricFetus Sanity going, going, gone Valued Senior Member

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    Not in the least, why?
     
  15. Because aren't you saying there's no point to life, which if I thought that it would me feel suicidal.
     
  16. ElectricFetus Sanity going, going, gone Valued Senior Member

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    no, rather the point to life is the spawning our successor, after that we are just talking monkeys not worthy of even a microsecond of our successors cpu time.
     
  17. idk wat ur saying but my understanding of the purpose of life is wat my father told me when I felt sucidal for the exact reason I said before. Wat he told me was that our purpose is to do something that will continue thoughout generations like wat all the Einsteins did.
     
  18. Ophiolite Valued Senior Member

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    Fascinating. What do you think de-evolution is? How would you define it? What is the mechanismof de-evolution? do you intend to publish anytime soon?
     
  19. ElectricFetus Sanity going, going, gone Valued Senior Member

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    I don't care for semantics and obviously you fall for such pitfalls. Of course its all evolution, de-evolution is simply an ideological term for evolution we would rather not like happening, such as a propensity towards idiocy or reduced life-spans or an increase in genetic disorders, simply because evolution does not care about who we would consider fit, to evolution "fit" is what ever breeds the most in the environment given, and if the environment supports ozark type mutant retards and spits out a retard mutant baby every year which medical science manages to keep alive up to reproductive age to repeat the cycle, so be it. Until those idiots destroy the civilization and science that supports them or until a cybernetic or robot successor to mankind ends the supporting civilization for them, they will out-breed the very people that made that civilization possible.
     
  20. ElectricFetus Sanity going, going, gone Valued Senior Member

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    Making self sustaining artificially intelligence could possibly continue throughout eternity.
     
  21. Lori_7 Go to church? I am the church! Registered Senior Member

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    So I guess what you're saying is that the intelligent really aren't that intelligent. Its the few who run the world who will bring about its end. The dumbfucks are just along for the ride.
     
  22. ElectricFetus Sanity going, going, gone Valued Senior Member

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    With out voting systems the few who run the world ARE the dumbfucks.
     
  23. spidergoat Valued Senior Member

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    You are only thinking about this on the most shallow level. Every creature needs to constantly keep ahead of diseases and parasites. Evolution is a race to stay in the same place.
     

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