Simply based on some background knowledge about these presidents. And, no, I do not even plan to prove this. Continue to believe they are heros and so on, I couldn't care less. Ask yourself, you have quoted them. Not interested. If you prefer to believe NYT lies, I couldn't care less. And,given that I consider sources as more or less reliable which you reject outright as pure propaganda, and reverse, there is in fact no chance to prove you something which contradicts Western propaganda. I know how to extract information from propaganda sources, by the way, but this is a subtle technique, and also gives you nothing sufficient to prove something to a believer. The article in the NATO-paper Zeit about the Greek press was such a point - it nicely described the state of the Greek press as one-sided propaganda for a Yes. The journalist obviously thought this is allowed, once it is only about the Greeks, not the NATO press in general. I prefer high quality information sources. The Zeit has been one in the past, 20 years ago or so. If they comfort my beliefs or not is secondary. If I think Stratfor has high quality, I read Stratfor, even if it is American and fights on the side of the Empire. Putin himself is, an an information source, quite good, at least in comparison with most other politicians. Despite the fact that he is not a libertarian, thus, many things he says don't comfort my libertarian ideas.