Wikipedia protest shutdown

Discussion in 'World Events' started by arfa brane, Jan 17, 2012.

  1. adoucette Caca Occurs Valued Senior Member

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    Yeah, it's REAL difficult to do a You-Tube search with the word's "Monty Python" in them and You-Tube has programs to assist in same.

    http://www.youtube.com/t/copyright_permissions
    http://www.youtube.com/t/copyright_program

    No.
    Why should it?
    If one buys something than presumably they own it and the rights to it.

    And you have done so without a shred of proof.

    Indeed I almost exclusively use You-Tube because of their positive actions in regard to content providers.
     
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  3. parmalee peripatetic artisan Valued Senior Member

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    I'm well aware of YouTube's policies and their efforts to control copyrighted content; however, when one uploads a video, it is posted immediately. That is, YouTube doesn't have a team of experts scouring every single freakin' video that's uploaded for copyrighted content--that task falls upon someone else.

    Show me your evidence that the copyright holders are compensated in a majority of instances for material that is posted on YouTube.
     
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  5. adoucette Caca Occurs Valued Senior Member

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    http://www.nytimes.com/2010/09/03/technology/03youtube.html

    And that's over a year old, so when you add in the growth and the ones that ARE done with the owner's permission, 50% seems more than reasonable.

    More to the point, You-Tube IS interested in the Content Owners getting compensated.
     
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  7. parmalee peripatetic artisan Valued Senior Member

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    (Bolding mine.)

    Learn how to read, Arthur.
     
  8. adoucette Caca Occurs Valued Senior Member

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    I know how to read.

    No ad, no revenue.

    To anyone.
     
  9. parmalee peripatetic artisan Valued Senior Member

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    They are referring to videos with ads posted within the video (see image accompanying article you posted)--all videos have ads at the sides of the screen.
     
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  10. adoucette Caca Occurs Valued Senior Member

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    So?

    The point is that You-Tube addresses the needs of Content Creators and has a good program for sharing revenue with them.
     
  11. parmalee peripatetic artisan Valued Senior Member

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    And yet, you have not demonstrated that the majority of copyrighted videos which are posted on YouTube provide compensation to copyright holders--and:

    (From your article.)
     
  12. Gustav Banned Banned

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    occupy wikipedia?
    boycotting a non-profit?

    /cackle
     
  13. parmalee peripatetic artisan Valued Senior Member

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    And for fuck's sake, stop saying "content creators" when the bulk of the revenue goes NOT to the creators, but to copyright holders.
     
  14. adoucette Caca Occurs Valued Senior Member

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    So?

    People voluntarily post all sorts of videos without expectation of compensation on You-Tube, so that means diddly squat.

    The FACT is that You-Tube pays content providers and takes copywrite seriously.

    •Do not upload content that may be copyrighted where you haven’t obtained the explicity permission to use it in that video.

    http://www.youtube.com/creators/partner-program-policies.html

    And so when I link to a You-Tube video I'm using the service of a company who does pay for content.
     
  15. parmalee peripatetic artisan Valued Senior Member

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    Sure they do, but they don't routinely police their site to ensure that copyrighted material doesn't slip by.

    Moreover, YOU MADE THE CLAIM.

    Oooohhh, it says "do not" do this--bet that stops a lot of people.

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  16. adoucette Caca Occurs Valued Senior Member

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    Nope.
    In many cases, the person selling is getting a bunch of money up front and the new copywrite holder is making their money over a longer time frame, so the point you are making is meaningless.
     
  17. quadraphonics Bloodthirsty Barbarian Valued Senior Member

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    Wikipedia is a non-profit organization. How, exactly, do you imagine that they are making money off of this behavior?

    And since when do you hold the $$$$ motive to be a bad thing? You're in the middle of advocating for a bunch of openly profit-driven lobbyists and the legislature that loves them.
     
  18. adoucette Caca Occurs Valued Senior Member

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    Says who?

    Yes, and I backed it up too.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/27/t...ashing-in-on-your-hit-youtube-video.html?_r=1

    http://www.nytimes.com/2010/09/03/technology/03youtube.html

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technolo...families-100000-as-funny-videos-go-viral.html

    Also several years ago You-Tube and ASCAP came to a license agreement and You-Tube pays for music as well.
     
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  19. parmalee peripatetic artisan Valued Senior Member

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  20. parmalee peripatetic artisan Valued Senior Member

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    "In many cases." LOL.
     
  21. Gustav Banned Banned

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  22. Gustav Banned Banned

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    goddammit
    adoucette and his mpaa/riaa goon squad should be charged with treason
     
  23. adoucette Caca Occurs Valued Senior Member

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