Why work for eight hours a day ?

Discussion in 'Science & Society' started by plakhapate, Apr 3, 2005.

  1. plakhapate Banned Banned

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    In the olden days employees were uneducated.
    People used to work for more than 12 hrs/day.
    With labour laws , in most of the countries people work for 48 hrs/week.
    In some countries people are working for 30 hrs/week.

    In my opinion work should not be more than 20 hrs/week
    It is proved that long working hours reduces efficiency.

    Further employees do not get time for exercise or outdoor games.
    More hours of table work result in Type-2 diabetes disease .
    This is one of the biggest problem of the world .
    Diabetes is hereditory in nature.
    Large population will be suffering from this disease in future.

    Also ,If working hours are reduced, unemployment problem can be solved to a great extent.

    Alternatively Physical exercise should be made mandatory in the office hours.
    This can be easily implemented in big organisations.

    ISO-18000 SHOULD INCORPORATE THIS

    Why doctors do not emphasise this ?
    Why labour law makers do not look into it ?
    What UNO is doing ?

    Public all over the world should come together and insist for the change.

    Any comments on this?

    P.J.LAKHAPATE
    plakhapate@rediffmail.com
     
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  3. kazakhan Registered Abuser Registered Senior Member

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    I agree, 3 days a week is all we should need to work. IMO there would be a huge reduction in unemployment and crime, it would also benefit us culturally as well.
    I dont agree with mandatory exercise in the workplace. However I would support it in schools, as most of my way through primary school we had to do aerobics for 10 minutes before starting class every morning and I believe it has benefited my health in latter life

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  5. superluminal . Registered Senior Member

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    I completely agree (except for the mandatory exercise thing).
     
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  7. Clockwood You Forgot Poland Registered Senior Member

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    In my opinion, as little should be mandatory as is possible while still maintaining social order. Hours and wages should all be handled in individual public contracts renewed on an annual basis.

    As for health, one's own body is theirs and theirs alone. I don't give a tamn if they carve out their own eyes with spoons and drink hot lead... so long as the taxpayer doesn't have to clean up the mess.
     
  8. Gondolin Hell hath no fury like squid Registered Senior Member

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    That would be great. I sure would work better if I didn't work constantly.... which I dont now, but when I do it would be good. No exercise though. I dont like exercise.
     
  9. Nasor Valued Senior Member

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    Well, keep in mind that you can only work 20 hours/week. The thing is, most people feel that the extra money you get for working 40 hours/week is worth it. Most people would rather work 40 hours/week and live in a nice house than work 20 hours/week and live in a cheap apartment, apparently.

    Of course it sounds good to only work 20 hours/week, but would you be willing to only make half as much?
     
  10. kenworth dude...**** it,lets go bowling Registered Senior Member

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    but i suppose if everyone worked half as much the money would stay the same,or would it?im not too good on economics..
     
  11. Clockwood You Forgot Poland Registered Senior Member

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    If everyone worked half as much, only half as much would be produced. We would be driven into economic collapse, starvation and poverty rampant.
     
  12. kenworth dude...**** it,lets go bowling Registered Senior Member

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    or everyone would be employed and we would all live in happy houses made of fun
     
  13. Clockwood You Forgot Poland Registered Senior Member

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    We don't have a 50% unemployment rate.
     
  14. kenworth dude...**** it,lets go bowling Registered Senior Member

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    no,but there are other countries.open borders,equal economies,no greed,houses made of fun.
     
  15. scorpius a realist Valued Senior Member

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    I agree we should let machines do most of the boring work.
    btw this idea has been around for about 50 years now,
    www.technocracy.org
    all diseases are related to lack of proper nutrition,
    Im sure diabetes can be cured and avoided by eating right foods containing proper minerals/vitamins unfortunately average people eat too much useless
    junk.to be healthy
    Ive heard of a case where high fat diet cured epilepsy in children,something
    most doctors would never recomend.why not?..scared of losing their high paying jobs most likely
    majority of public is stoopid and brainwashed by the goverment and big media propaganda
    that its un-american=comunistic/socialistic not needing to strive to make million
    $$,and not being greedy,
    I dont see that changing until people smarten up and realize that fng money aint all thats important.
    your good health is...
    people working less hours would make less money,true,so they would be buying less,
    I dont see that as a problem as the prices of everything would eventualy have to come down..
     
  16. cato less hate, more science Registered Senior Member

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    People in many countries work less hours than America. America (and some other countries) have a culture that tell them they have to make as much money as they can, live in the biggest house they can afford, drive the nicest car they can afford, and have the nicest things they can afford. However, I don’t really see this as being a bad thing. as long as people are happy and not hurting me, I'm fine with it. having a county of workaholics is a good thing in my book. I like America, we have built a country as good or better than any old world country, and we had less than 500 years to do it in.

    I think this is the first thing clockwood and I have agreed on. peoples bodies are their own business. I also think that health insurance should go by lifestyle, your rates should go up if you are out of shape, a smoker, drink heavily, have poor oral hygiene, play dangerous sports, or anything else that will cause them to take more money out of the system than they normally would. however, I draw the line at genetic profiling. if you have ever seen gatica you should know why.
     
  17. Clockwood You Forgot Poland Registered Senior Member

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    Sweet Pazuzu, I am agreeing with Cato.

    There is one thing I have seen with family, friends, and coworkers. When they get old enough to retire, a real retirement and not the type where you find another job, some start taking it easy. They relax, do what they want to do... and start losing their vibrancy. Within a few years they are dead.

    The other bunch get to that age and continue working just as hard. If they can't get a job, they volunteer or do something else as if it were a paying job. They grumble, they groan, and they go home with every joint aching... but with smiles that they can't quite hide under their wrinkles. And they live and keep living for another couple decades. Their responibility doesn't let them die. If the grim reaper came after them in person they would try to beat him over the skull with a cane and try to chew through the scythe with their dentures.

    Do not knock workaholics. They make everything a little bit better by their presence and the world repays them in turn.
     
  18. spuriousmonkey Banned Banned

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    I think quite the opposite. Consumerism (spending money) is destructive for this world. It is nice that some of these people spend most of their time locked away in an office or factory, but that doesn't change the fact that their basic aim is to destroy the world by eating up the world. Obviously they don't realize this because they are too preoccupied with work and spending money, or they only give a shit about themselves and their money and don't care.
     
  19. Clockwood You Forgot Poland Registered Senior Member

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    What is the point of living if you can't do something in that time?
     
  20. Roman Banned Banned

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    France is the fourth biggest economy in the world, yet they wake up late, go to a cafe, drink coffee and smoke, then head to work at 10 am. And 8 weeks of vacation.

    But they still have a gigantic economy, and are smaller than Texas. Reduction of the work week would not be catastrophic.
     
  21. Roman Banned Banned

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    Actually, they just moved it from a 35 hour work week to a 48 hour work week. That's 48 hours max. You are not legally allowed to work more than that, or something.
     
  22. spuriousmonkey Banned Banned

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    Have some other aims beside consuming things. Start painting or take long walks in the country side.
     
  23. Hapsburg Hellenistic polytheist Valued Senior Member

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    people should work more. lazy humans.
     

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