Why wear clothes?

I'm not sure I'm buying what you're saying.

The nurse cells in the testicles require a specific temperature to carry out spermatogenesis which happens to be a few degrees lower than the core body temperature. Warmth doesn't end this process, it just reduces fertility through lower sperm count. The cellular processes that infuse RNA into individual spermatozoa don't require specific temperatures at all. Body warmth won't cause the sperm to mutate, but it will inhibit their creation.

If there is supporting evidence that warmth causes mutations in sperm cells, then I'd like to see it.

~String

 

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its a hypothis nothing more, im not studying reproductive health in any great degree so i dont have access to detailed information on it. Im quite willing to yield the argument to you if you know more about it

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however there IS an inherent susceptability of both xy sperm and males in general. If its not temp which causes it i would love to know what it is because males are MUCH more likly to be stillborn or miscaried, much more likly to die of genetic abnormalities (not all of which are carried on either the x or the y i might add) and this does carry right the way through the age groups.

 

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It seems like it was something that began as a practical use, which allowed humans to flourish in environments they never would have been able to otherwise, since or bodies seem to be best adapted to warm climates. But as time went on practicality dveloped into something favorable. Like many human inventions, when the basic would suffice, we constantly look for ways to make it look pretty and the object begans to loose it's practicality (furniture for example: Why do people buy tables and shelves just to put decorative items on? They serve no practical purpose other than to look pretty).
But at the same time we still recognize clothes for their practical purposes, putting strange relgious dogma aside, these days people across many cultures don't bathe with clothing on, not even when bathing with others.

 

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What do you mean by this?

 

what?

i would say that statement was self explanitory

when testicals get hot sperm counts go down over all and the percentage of xy (male) sperm drops as well

 

Who needs scientific data. Just think about this. You're at a restaurant, trying to enjoy a meal. But you can't get the image of the man who who was sitting where you are now only moments before with his big, fat, pimply, hairy, poorly wiped ass and balls right up against the same chair that your bare skin is now resting on. You can't help imagining some sort of vermin isn't even now crawling from said chair onto your skin or even right up your exposed anus. You are possessed with an irresistable urge to scratch yourself while running screaming from the restaurant to the nearest decontamination center.

That's what every day would be like if no one wore clothes.

 

A perfect illustration of why you should Never (Ever!) leave home without your towel.

A towel is about the most massively useful thing an interstellar hitchhiker can have. Partly it has great practical value - you can wrap it around you for warmth as you bound across the cold moons of Jaglan Beta; you can lie on it on the brilliant marble-sanded beaches of Santraginus V, inhaling the heady sea vapours; you can sleep under it beneath the stars which shine so redly on the desert world of Kakrafoon; use it to sail a mini raft down the slow heavy river Moth; wet it for use in hand-to- hand-combat; wrap it round your head to ward off noxious fumes or to avoid the gaze of the Ravenous Bugblatter Beast of Traal (a mindboggingly stupid animal, it assumes that if you can't see it, it can't see you - daft as a bush, but very ravenous); you can wave your towel in emergencies as a distress signal, and of course dry yourself off with it if it still seems to be clean enough.

More importantly, a towel has immense psychological value. For some reason, if a strag (strag: non-hitch hiker) discovers that a hitch hiker has his towel with him, he will automatically assume that he is also in possession of a toothbrush, face flannel, soap, tin of biscuits, flask, compass, map, ball of string, gnat spray, wet weather gear, space suit etc., etc. Furthermore, the strag will then happily lend the hitch hiker any of these or a dozen other items that the hitch hiker might accidentally have "lost". What the strag will think is that any man who can hitch the length and breadth of the galaxy, rough it, slum it, struggle against terrible odds, win through, and still knows where his towel is is clearly a man to be reckoned with.​

 

The Hitchhiker's Guide is one of the best books of all time.

 

This is a reflection of individuality as much as social rules and traditions. We want to have a "private" part on our body, just as we want to have "private thoughts" or a "private room". We feel privilaged and special. We do not want to display our privates to people other than we choose to show. It can be genitelia or ideas.

There is a historic reason too. Imagine you are a member of a hunting group without any clothes. When you bend over to hide, there is a fellow ape behind you with full off ape possibilities. You may simply destruct the attention and the concentration of the hunting party with your genitelia. We couldn't fight each other either: Each war attempt would have ended up a gay orgie. Unwanted results...

 

that would have been a good thing

and as for bells ect, thats only because thats what you have been TAUGHT, no different from asia countries where women have been TAUGHT not to show there ankles and conservitive muslim countries where women have been TAUGHT not to show even there eyes and the laws reflect this.

its an all or nothing thing, either enforing the burka is wrong and so are ALL public indecency laws or its wrong and we should leave all clothing up to indervidual choice NOT the law. admitedly this doesnt go for OH&S but as for walking down the street what you wear or dont should be YOUR choice or we shouldnt be critising muslim countries enforcing the burka.

does a group od uni students protesting naked really deserve to be treated as sex criminals?

 

We have already entered the era of porn, anyway: Ordinary people are showing their privates to the rest of the world through internet. There is another practical reason other than what society think: If we were naked, our genitelia could easily catch many different diseases since we sit down various places, not knowing what material it is made, or who sat there before us. Our genitelia has direct access to our internal organs such as our nose or our mouth. We don't lick everything for a good reason, so we must protect our privates against unwanted external dangers.

 

then dont complain about "women's rights" not to be forced to cover up on pain of jail time or whatever other punishment they want to meet out, bells.

 

River Apes (humans) evolved as creatures of the riverbank.
Down by the river, amongst our own tribe, we were happy enough without clothes.
Temperature control was always a problem -- restricting our range.
Spray and sweat and shade are the solutions to cooling.
Fire was the earliest solution to warming,
and the cooking of meat made it more palatable and more safe.
Robbing other creatures of their fur was the second solution,
but changing the appearance of those among whom we dwelt had strong psychological and cultural ramifications.
The fashion industry is the upshot of those ramifications getting out of hand.
But if by science we take control of our environment,
we can return to the subtropical riverbank, and to the freedom of our nakedness,
gathering nuts and berries, catching fish, hunting game,
fucking our cousins, and spearing the enemy on the other side of the ridge.
Is this not our destiny? Or has the march of science been in vain?

 

the law is the law bells, there IS no difference you are trying to quible about amounts or punshments without accepting the hipocrasy of your own aguments. how many other things are illegal simply because "you dont want to see them"?

homosexuality was but its not now and we concider people who are still against it to be biggots. so how many laws are there bell your a blood sucker, you should know them all.

the argument is that being forced to wear even the head scarf supresses freedom of expression. well when a group of students are now "sex criminals" for protesting id say we need to look HERE before we worry about the head scarf

 

Wow, you really blew what Asguard said out of proportion. If it was custom for everyone to eat naked, just like it's custom to bathe naked, it probably wouldn't bother you so much to see naked people eating. It is something you picked up, because of the social structure you live in. Just like how it's considered rude to look someone in the eye during a conversation in some cultures and in others it's rude not to look at someone when they are speaking to you. What's cute and what's gross is mostly socially determined, I believe is all Asguard was saying.

 

There are exceptions. The Naga sadhus for example. Everyone expects them to be naked. So its not considered as nonconformity

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