Why is Montreal so cold?

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  1. pluto2 Registered Senior Member

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    What is Montreal (Canada) colder than Moscow and Saint Petersburg despite Moscow and Saint Petersburg being of higher latitude (closer to the north pole) than Montreal?

    Montreal's latitude is 45°30′N 73°40′W while Moscow's latitude is 55°45′8″N 37°37′56″E and Saint Petersburg latitude is even higher than Moscow's and is 59°56′N 30°20′E.
     
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  3. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    Its all that French, tres froide.
     
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  5. nietzschefan Thread Killer Valued Senior Member

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    You sure it's colder?
     
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  7. pluto2 Registered Senior Member

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    Yep
     
  8. cosmictraveler Be kind to yourself always. Valued Senior Member

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    Perhaps because many of the women their often give the men the "cold shoulder" treatment.

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  9. Syzygys As a mother, I am telling you Valued Senior Member

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    I looked it up, it is pretty much the SAME for all 3 cities, -10.5C in January, average.
    Still, one could ask why St.Petersburg isn't MUCH colder? Montreal might be colder for its latitude because of the Northern winds bringing the cold down...

    Also, Montreal is very WET and windy, so that effects the feeling of the weather.
     
  10. pluto2 Registered Senior Member

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    Where did you look it up? Here it's written that the daily minimum in Montreal is -14.7°C compared to only -10.5°C in Moscow and Saint Petersburg (according to wikipedia).
     
  11. Syzygys As a mother, I am telling you Valued Senior Member

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    Look up St.Petersburg in the same Wikipedia...

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St._petersburg#Climate

    YOUR quoted website says the AVERAGE cold is -10.2C for Montreal which is slightly warmer than the -10.6 C in St. Petersburg in February...

    Again, average....
     
  12. nietzschefan Thread Killer Valued Senior Member

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    Well, Canada generally gets fucked over by the Siberian high, but i'm still surprised Moscow is the same as Montreal.(mean temp)

    That must mean my home town of Edmonton is the coldest major(500K+) city on earth.
     
  13. Syzygys As a mother, I am telling you Valued Senior Member

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    Harbin, China has -11.5 C, what do you have for average?

    Also, "Try visiting Yakutsk – the Russian city where 'a bit nippy' means minus 50C, and a quick dash to the corner shop could end in frostbite."

    Yakutsk has 200K people, quite big....
     
  14. nietzschefan Thread Killer Valued Senior Member

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  15. nietzschefan Thread Killer Valued Senior Member

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    Bah Winnipeg is colder.
     
  16. q0101 Registered Senior Member

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    There are many things that can affect the average temperature of a location. (Latitudes, altitudes, mountains, the proximity to the sea, sea temperatures)

    Why do think Montreal is so cold? Did you just move to the city? I lived in Montreal for most of life and I think the average temperature in the summer is too hot. I am a little different that most people. I prefer cooler temperatures. The summers in Montreal can be very hot, especially when the temperature is 5 – 10 degrees C above normal. The average daytime highs during the end of July and the beginning of August are approximately 27C. The average daytime highs during the end of January and the beginning of February are approximately -6C. I think Vancouver has the best weather out of all of the large Canadian cities. It has relatively mild winters and warm summers.
     
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  18. CheskiChips Banned Banned

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    Montreal sits next to 2 large lakes.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lake_effect_snow

    Same thing happens in Buffalo NY
     
  19. pluto2 Registered Senior Member

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    I guess continental polar air masses is the reason. I simply don't see another explanation. Montreal is very cold for it's latitude.

    Montreal in the Quebec province of Canada is located at a latitude of 45°30′N and currently shows a temperature of -26°C.

    http://www.weather.com/outlook/travel/businesstraveler/local/CAXX0301?from=enhsearch_loc

    In Zurich (Switzerland) which is even in a slightly higher latitude than Montreal (47°22′N) it's only 2°C.

    http://www.weather.com/outlook/travel/businesstraveler/local/SZXX0033?from=enhsearch_loc
     
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  20. John Connellan Valued Senior Member

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    To be basing temperature on latitude alone is being a bit naive. You should now by now with all the posts that there are many variables that determine temperature not least the prevailing winds and pressure systems.

    Anyway, seems Moscow is a bit colder on average:

    MONTREAL 45.50°N 73.59°W. Height 57m

    Nov 1.3
    Dec -6.4
    Jan -9.7
    Feb - 8.7

    MOSKVA USSR 55.80°N 37.60°E. Height 156m

    Nov -2
    Dec -7.5
    Jan -10.2
    Feb - 8.9

    taken from http://www.worldclimate.com
     
  21. CheskiChips Banned Banned

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    This is true and part of any extensive conversation. Wind coming off of the Atlantic is warmer, meaning they move East over Russia.
     
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  23. John Connellan Valued Senior Member

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    The worst?! Speak for yourself, I'm from ireland and what we wouldn't do over here for a bit of exciting weather

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    Our summers are pretty much the same as our winters now (except the summers are a lot wetter). Especially since this climate change crap
     

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