Discussion in 'Human Science' started by mikenostic, Apr 30, 2009.
Strong human bias in this thread.
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Yes, well, the tomato plants and sheep are having trouble with their internet connection.
How are we to explore the universe and learn about possible existent life forms out there if we can't even respect the life we have here as being as valuable as our own?
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We agree then.
So what if it's morally repugnant to US ? It doesn't change the facts.
Yes, that's OUR reality.
Some people seem unable to see through it and I find that extremely annoying.
Hmm.. I somewhat agree. But this is also from a human point of view.
I think humans in general are too quick to call on their own interest. Squash a bug because it's buzzing around irritates you..
Is it irrational to catch a bullet for someone you love, or think is too important to die ?
I think a fair point can be made that assigning value at all is irrational.
It's also true that only looking after your own interests in the short term is often disadvantageous in the long run.
Agreed. I'd say that, objectively, the right to live is nonexistent.
From nature's (biological) point of view a human is worth less than any other living thing on this planet (excluding pets and livestock etc.).
let me ask you then, if you, your child, and tomatoe plant were stuck in a fire at home and you had to rescue one of them, which would it be?
Somebody please bring this "animal vs human" topic to formal debate (e.g. Enmos + Takandjive VS Madanthonywayne + Orleander) and be done with it Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image!
Otherwise many threads will end up like this:
This thread is about why some people don't prefer baby girl :shrug:
Nah, Mad agrees with me and Orleander does as well.
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If it is Enmos' child and my tomato plant, well... :scratchin: j/k!!
Oh we probably can. Can you imagine the carnage.. ?
The current discussion is not in answer to that post though.
If you don't have a little girl, who are you supposed to play tea party with? well I guess my boys will be having tea parties.
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Yeah, I laugh at people who say they are gonna raise their kid in a non-sexist gender free way. Well, when they have a son, let me see him in a dress.
Indirect influences, expectations and peer pressures come in from all sides--society shapes people just as much as parents. It's all very well for the Jesuits to say 'give me the child until the age of seven, and I'll give you the adult', but consider all the other influences that are coming upon the child (especially these days, with all the paraphanalia with which we insist on surrounding ourselves), and you can see that society has a fairly large helping in raising a child, whether the intrusion is welcome or not.
What does having a tea party have to do with raising them gender free? I don't want my kids to be gender free. Little boys can enjoy having tea parties too can't they?
yep, and playing with Barbie instead of GI Joe and wearing dresses instead of pants. At what age do parents say 'no more' ?? Do you send him to school in a dress if that's what he wants?
I don't know what you're talking about. If he prefers Barbie to GI Joe then what so bad about that? I organized a tea party for the kids I look after, boys and girls. They got to dress up, play pretend and drink tea and eat cookies. I don't see why it has to be gender specific. They all had a blast. The girls dressed up as princesses or sorceresses (and one pirate) and the boys were everything from princes to knights to pirates (and a tax collector Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image!). I had so much fun with them. That's why I want to play it with my future kids regardless of gender. I would want my kids to identify with a gender. I was just trying to get the thread slightly back on topic.
I think if the kid's showing a real preference for opposite gender stuff in all things, s/he needs "the rules" explained to him. A boy wearing a dress outside the house is going to take a LOT of flack, and he needs to be aware.
I also think the parents have to investigate the possibility their child is transexual, and be as sensitive to that as they can.
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