Why does the government hide UFO's?

Discussion in 'UFOs, Ghosts and Monsters' started by darksidZz, Apr 19, 2016.

  1. Magical Realist Valued Senior Member

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    Yep...those jets were chasing a silver disc-shaped goose. Happens all the time.

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  3. Xelasnave.1947 Valued Senior Member

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    I think the reference to the bird world could embrace the ostrich on this one if you fail to accept that the video was pathetic.
    When I think video I think "moving pictures" yet you offer something less than a slide show.
    I would love to look at something where its is midly acceptable and reasonably narrated is that unreasonable.
    As I said posting rubbish like that does your cause harm and if you continue along those lines I think it offers evidence that you are trying to discredit the ufo camp rather than support it.

    Alex
     
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  5. Magical Realist Valued Senior Member

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    I think you're just pissed that there is such good evidence for ufos and so dismissing them as poor quality videos becomes your standard excuse for not taking them seriously. That's what I think..
     
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  7. Xelasnave.1947 Valued Senior Member

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    You could be right.
    It could be that all this strong evidence you provide is just too much for my mind to manage.
    It could be that I am genuinely disappointed that the videos, the last one in particular, are not movies and the narration of a standard one could only rate as below poor.
    As I said you do no favours for the ufobelievers.
    Keep up the good work.
    Alex
     
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  9. Magical Realist Valued Senior Member

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    That happened in the last century.
    Before when I wish I was born.
    Certainly evidence for the proposition I suggested earlier.
    Now I think you are working too hard.
    In that story they could notbe bothered to even give or make up names for the witnesses...
    Why?
    Could it be that those names could be checked?
    Are those witnesses still alive all these years after.

    Anyways thanks I have said that I dont read fiction and here you go being nice and trying to slowly introduce me to it... Pity you hit me up with extreme fiction and so much all at once.

    Thanks but as I said I dont read fiction.

    Have you any material that relates to early this century?

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  11. Magical Realist Valued Senior Member

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    I'm not buying your all too convenient premise that ufo encounters in the 1900's are somehow invalid. But here's one that happened more recently.

     
  12. James R Just this guy, you know? Staff Member

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    So, let's just pretend that we didn't see post #1055 and just go right on posting more dubious youtube videos, while never ever turning our brains on.

    Right, Magical Realist?
     
  13. Xelasnave.1947 Valued Senior Member

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    Thanks for that one but its 10 years old.
    In law we have a thing called the statute of limitations which basically tells us that if evidence is older than five years forget it.
    Well there is more to it than that but it indicates we need fresh evidence and given all the cameras I ask where is it?
    Further there is no movie of a UFO and although there was a supposed photo it did not surface.

    I hope you have a decent recent movie where we can see something.

    Otherwise the UFO case seems rather weak to me.

    Alex
     
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  14. Magical Realist Valued Senior Member

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    You seem to think I'm still trying to convince you. No..I am posting this evidence for everyone else to see. The honest seekers of truth on this matter, not the biased debunkers just trying to defend their crumbling worldview.
     
  15. Magical Realist Valued Senior Member

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    So what? Let's also just pretend you didn't see post #1025. And I see you're still insulting me. Nothing I told you really sank in did it? If I respond at all, I will respond in my own good time when I have something to say. Deal with it.
     
  16. Xelasnave.1947 Valued Senior Member

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    This is why we need to keep clear heads.
    I have regarded your interaction with me as pleasant and not one where you are un reasonable and trying to force acceptance upon me.

    And for me I have expressed my general sceptical nature of all things nevertheless as I mentioned to the god recently I try to see the board as the other player sees it.

    I have always sort the truth.
    I have always been honest.
    Alex
     
  17. river

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    This is not about law Alex .
     
  18. Magical Realist Valued Senior Member

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    No movies of ufos? Who told you that? Or did you just pull that out of your ass?

    Here's the very first film of ufos in Great Falls Montana in 1950.

     
  19. Xelasnave.1947 Valued Senior Member

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    Hi River
    No you are correct.
    My reference to the statute of limitations was to draw attention to the in acceptability of old evidence.
    That does not mean it is useless as evidence but the older things become, and there are some exceptions as there always are, the less useful it becomes.
    And I do think something that happening yesterday is easier to analyse than something that happened a decade ago.
    I am looking for the best evidence and it is more likely that the more recent that evidence is there better it may be.
    We can see the videos of years ago are not even very good slide shows how much better if we had a five minute movie of a flying V ( not the guitar) so we can determine from its movements and hopefully resolution what that V really is, bird or craft, cloud or a new military device.

    I am being reasonable and truely I am not dismissing anything simply because I have made up my mind.

    If there is anything out there I don't know about I would like to know and although you may think I am dead against the prospect I say I really would like to know if any of the evidence is strong enough to be reasonably convincing.
    So far nothing and for me to say otherwise would mean I have been dishonest with you and I would not do that to you or anyone else.
    Alex
     
  20. Magical Realist Valued Senior Member

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    He knows that. That's why this is just a game of moving the goalposts. Show me evidence. But that's a poorly made video. Show me evidence from this century. But that's too old. Show me evidence from the last 5 years. But it's not a movie. Show me a movie of a ufo from the past 5 years. But that movie is too poorly made. And so it endlessly goes ad nauseum.
     
  21. Magical Realist Valued Senior Member

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    LOL! Uh no..An eyewitness account, or a photo, or a video, does not become less useful the older it gets. It's as good as it ever was.
     
  22. river

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    Alex the best video's and written down evidence , is older , older the better , always .
     
  23. Xelasnave.1947 Valued Senior Member

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    I will take that as a compliment River...the older is better part.

    Anyways do you have something you consider considerable.

    Alex
     

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