Why does evolution select against atheists?

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  1. earth Registered Senior Member

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    Agreed, I doubt hay you would know a fact if it fell on him. Magic is his thing.

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  3. shichimenshyo Caught in the machine Registered Senior Member

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    Do you think he knows about Chris Angel? Hes so dreaaaaamy!

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  5. Dywyddyr Penguinaciously duckalicious. Valued Senior Member

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    How many times have you claimed "evolution is not a fact"?
    You don't deny scientific facts if YOU believe in them, otherwise you deny or ignore.

    Only the ones you agree with. Hardly rational.

    And your "use" of the English language is as good as your "use" of science. The word is interpretation.

    Not on the evidence so far.

    I agree.
    But you avoid it like the plague.

    Nope, you're the deviant.
     
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  7. hay_you Registered Member

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    I am no different than anyone else. There a lot of things I don't know.
    But this subject I have had a special interest in.
     
  8. hay_you Registered Member

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    The science is OK, the scientists interpretation of that science is the problem.
     
  9. baftan ******* Valued Senior Member

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    Science do not grow on trees or come out of nowhere. Scientists have been constructing what we know throughout centuries. You can not isolate human element from science; that would only mystifies it unnecessarily, science would become something other than accumulated methodical human knowledge.
     
  10. glaucon tending tangentially Moderator

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    This statement alone serves as sufficient evidence to support the idea that you have absolutely no clue whatsoever as to what you're talking about.

    Go read a book.
     
  11. hay_you Registered Member

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    Scientists do the work, they find the fossils, they do experiments. They also interpret what he fossils mean. The fossils are the science, the interpretation is the scientists.
     
  12. hay_you Registered Member

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    The book you asked me to go and read is the interpretation from the scientists.
    This tells me that the scientists do not understand this.
     
  13. glaucon tending tangentially Moderator

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    This tells me you don't understand and anything.
     
  14. spidergoat Valued Senior Member

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    Reptiles did turn into birds. The problem is the human labeling system, which calls them separate things. In reality, birds are just another kind of reptile. Reptiles are just another kind of Amphibian. Amphibians are just another kind of fish, etc...
     
  15. earth Registered Senior Member

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    Paleontologists refer to the sauropsida group of tetrapod vertebrates as the ancestors of birds, also lizards, snakes, turtles and crocodiles.

    The Synapsida group of tetrapod vertebrates are refered to as the ancestors of mammals.

    Hay you, are you going to deny the fossil record too? Just as you did scientific facts, theory and method.

    Creationist faith lacks the knowledge and skill to determine facts.
     
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  16. GeoffP Caput gerat lupinum Valued Senior Member

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    No, you fail to understand. The lizards have undergone massive morphological evolution in order to adapt to a new diet. They are not the same type anymore, and it is not merely a question of diet. It is open to speculation whether they could or would breed.
     
  17. hay_you Registered Member

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    Talk about magic!
     
  18. hay_you Registered Member

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    They are referred to that by scientist not the science. This is interpretation, of fossils. Scientists have never seen or found where , one kind of animals turns into another kind. This is only speculation.
     
  19. earth Registered Senior Member

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    I observe by your reply you’re saying you deny the evidence made available through the research and examination of the fossils discovered by scientists specializing in the field of paleontology. What exactly do you think science is, anyway and where does science come from?
     
  20. spidergoat Valued Senior Member

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    That's reality. If the fossil record were complete, there could be no separate naming system for each living thing. You would see no distinct "kinds".
     
  21. earth Registered Senior Member

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    hey_you is credulous almost to the point of beyond my comprehension. Who is it bewitching him?
     
  22. hay_you Registered Member

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    The science is already there, what scientists do is examine the evidence and make an interpretation from what they find. This is true about the scientists they do the research and with out that most of what man knows about science would not be known. There is a great debt to the scientists for that. Also many of the findings take a lot of training and exchange of knowledge,over many years.
    I take nothing away from the scientists for that.
    It is just they have made a mistake in the backing something that is not proved, and really can not be proved. Now almost everything that science does is about evolving.
    I don't want to plague you guys too much on this, I only wanted you to think about it.
     
  23. hay_you Registered Member

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    But that ofcourse is the point. The evidence points to what is real, there are distinct 'kinds'. Scientists are going beyond what the evidence says, to say something completely different than that.
     

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