Why do racists have low IQs?

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  1. greenberg until the end of the world Registered Senior Member

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    That doesn't follow from what I said.
    Nobody is permanently in the same mental or emotional state. But some people do have prolonged periods where they are in the same or similar mental or emotional state.
    As Goleman and the EQ camp are seeking to point out, persisting negative emotions have adverse effects on cognitive ability, both short-term and long-term.

    When it comes to racism, a casual observation reveals that there are probably several styles of racism. There are people who have intensely racist viewpoints, but who do not engage in them very often. Then there are people who also have intensely racist viewpoints, but who engage in them very often.

    The thing to demonstrate is (1) that a racist mindset gives rise to negative emotions, and (2) that persisting negative emotions have more adverse effects on cognitive ability than occasional negative emotions.

    But the test population would also have to include racist extremist groups and racist members of the social elite, both the most obvious protagonists of the racist mindset.
    I'm afraid, though, there's no way to get them to take psychological tests. I mean, how does one get Sarkozy or the local skinhead group to take a test ...
     
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  3. cosmictraveler Be kind to yourself always. Valued Senior Member

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    What then is survival? If a people were to have a land in which they lived for decades then another group of people came there to work but were only

    there to gain control of the lands that the people were there already. The new people weren't nice about there ways and only wanted those living there

    already to start to adhere to their new ways instead of what was already there. If the people that already lived there started to protest against those who

    just arrived because they didn't like what they were doing would they be racists? I'd think not because all they wanted to do was maintain there positions

    and values to be able to be the way they intended their way of living to be.


    Anytime one group of people are challenged that have the authority and power by a newer group of people are they racists? It seems that the new arrivals

    only use the laws of the land to be used against those in power to override those in power to gain access to that power. When those in control try and

    prevent anything from happening to them , they are called racists because they oppose those trying to steal their authority and power. So here we are

    today, those that want access to those already there and those that are there preventing a takeover. The tactics that the newcomers use is to say that

    they are being discriminated against but in actuality they are not. They are allowed to work, play, buy and be educated just as everyone else is. But that's

    not good enough for them.



    The people that want to have the authority only try to make it seem that they are somehow being neglected, mistreated and abused somehow and the

    media only wants to help them in that they like to have controversy and disruptions because it sells. The newcomers attack everywhere they can to bring

    about changes that benefit themselves and gets them into power. What has taken the original people centuries to make is now being overtaken by the new

    people on the block who only arrived there a few decades ago. Because of the over[population of the newcomers they are now in position to overwhelm

    the ones already there and try their best to take over. Those there fight back but they are called racists because they don't have the same skin color,

    beliefs, ways or habits as those trying to take over.



    In a nutshell we see that those in power are not racists but only are branded as so by the media because the media likes to have controversy by both

    sides which only makes the matters worse for the newcomers like to be seen as the "underdogs" and also seen as to be in the losing end of everything.

    Actually they aren't, they are only manipulating the media to get their ways and have more access to the controlling factions of the new lands. Again

    those in charge try to keep it their way but cannot because they are seen as racists and bigots. To try and salvage what they have the people that were

    there already now are defending themselves all the time but in actuality are being used and abused by the newcomers.To call those that are already

    owners of the land racists , to me, is ridiculous because they only want to have and keep it the way they have built it.
     
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  5. Grantywanty Registered Senior Member

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    No you definitely can't call the Native Americans racists because they disliked the treatment they received from European colonists. In fact the colonists were the ones who thought the Natives were subhuman.
     
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  7. cosmictraveler Be kind to yourself always. Valued Senior Member

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    Then how can the whites today be called racists since they have been in

    power for 300 years here but are now being challenged all the time by the

    new immigrants?
     
  8. Grantywanty Registered Senior Member

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    First of all, being racist does not mean 'being challenged all the time'.
    Secondly, Europeans decided that they had more right to the land of the NAs because they were less human. If an immigrant decides that in relation to you call the police.
     
  9. Grantywanty Registered Senior Member

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    But I am glad you acknowledge that the Europeans were racists. Many people who get upset at immigrants never seem to have acknowledged that Europeans were racist and that the US is in part build up via racist policies, laws, military action and so on.
     
  10. cosmictraveler Be kind to yourself always. Valued Senior Member

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    When there is a white person and they disagree with a person of different

    persuasion they are many times called "racists" today just because they

    disagree and want it to remain the way they have made it for their power

    trips. They don't want to give up their authority to anyone else no matter

    what they may look like other than themselves.
     
  11. Grantywanty Registered Senior Member

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    It's funny how little you know about what has already happened and yet not led to what you think it will lead to.
     
  12. mountainhare Banned Banned

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    James:
    You're joking, right? Statistical analysis of results should be included with the study. I'd like a reference to the original paper if possible.
     
  13. Grantywanty Registered Senior Member

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    I found this very confusing.
     
  14. greenberg until the end of the world Registered Senior Member

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    You seem to think that racism is part of identity, something that persists and transcends generations and circumstances.
     
  15. Atom Registered Senior Member

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    By FAR the most racists and the worst racists are the lumpen Working Classes and I know from bitter experience having been born within a mile of Bernard Mannings Embassy Club. Oddly enough I woudn't classify Manning as strictly racist, its more complicated than that but he certainly 'catered' to a racist audience.

    Forget graphs and statistics...I know the truth. The worst racists were people who I worked with in Nationalised Industries such as the GPO. As SAM suggests they were the herd, the Ubermensch, the lumpen of thought, the poor workers - and oddly enough ALL Socialists to a Man (and yes they were sexist as well). More importantly for this thread they were utterly ignorant!

    A lot of the time snobs get mixed up with racists. I am proud to be a snob - I am not and never have been racist.

    I remember going into the GPO canteen a huge place jampacked with Postal Workers. One black guy was sitting by himself. I went over to keep him company. He told me that he had been working there for 3 months and NO-ONE had bothered to chat to him.

    Scandalous!

    ...there are your lovely liberal Socialists!!!

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  16. DeepThought Banned Banned

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    You must be joking.

    People who think that races should live separate existences are not racists. They are people who respect nature and what it has created.

    The racists are arrogant people like you who think they can control the world in the first place.
     
  17. DeepThought Banned Banned

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    This is typical pathetic, hypocritical, liberal sentiment.

    If it wasn't for the the social stratification of white people in the first place there wouldn't have been a ruling class which could treat humanity like cattle.
     
  18. Atom Registered Senior Member

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    Deepthought?

    ..you sound more shallow than a puddle of mud.

    Try learning to read before posting bunkum.

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  19. Grantywanty Registered Senior Member

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    So these segregationists are against hybridization and refuse to eat certain crops, use donkeys (or is it asses, it must be asses in this case), are definitely against gene modification, my god they must be gnashing their teeth about gene modification. I assume that European segregationists do not like using corn, potatoes and tomatoes since these products come from the Americas and should not be mixed with European foods that nature has carefully placed on other continents.

    How do they feel about alloys?
    They must be against nuclear power, certainly fusion if not fission.
     
  20. DeepThought Banned Banned

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    Atom,

    You think your superior to working class white people who in turn think they are superior to blacks so where does that put you in relation to black people?

    Hint: not on the same level that's for sure.

    And you certainly showed that when you tried to demonstrate your superiority by talking to a black guy. Was he subserviently grateful enough?

    You don't see black people as humans only as objects to further your own sense of superiority.

    Typically, when blacks refuse to be pawns in your power games the fake empathy quickly evaporates and they find themselves facing riot police or worse.

    Malcolm X said white liberals were hypocritical, camouflaged racists who pretended be the friend of blacks while secretly discriminating.

    Guess what?

    You proved him right.
     
  21. DeepThought Banned Banned

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    Granty,

    Humans can certainly trade and share resources. It's a question of balance.

    But just how much is gene modification and nuclear energy going to change your life? Are genetically modified tomatoes going to make the world a better place?

    Lets not get confused and fall into the trap of thinking we are heading towards some kind of utopia - a common myth held dear by many involved in science.

    We have lost the hair on our bodies that keeps us warm and have grown physically weaker as a species. Human babies are the weakest offspring of all mammals. Nature is sending us a very clear message about our future but our obsession with power is preventing us from seeing it.

    Or maybe our obsession is a result of what is happening to us?
     
  22. DeepThought Banned Banned

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    You don't know much about your own people but that's probably because racism in India is still a taboo subject - unless the finger is being pointed elsewhere.

    Here's an article on the Dravidian Genocide - the mass murder of dark skinned, African featured people in India - carried out by the lighter skinned Hindus 2500 years ago.

    (This is written and researched by African/black people not whites)

    http://www.cwo.com/~lucumi/dravidian.html
     
  23. Atom Registered Senior Member

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    I'm afraid you're getting hysterical, Old chap.

    And in more ways than one.

    Allow me to lead you into a world of Reality away from your odd cyberspace inner world. Firstly I'm by no means a liberal. I am a working class person who has always voted Tory/Conservative apart from a massive error when I, amongst many, was taken in by a chap called Tony Blair who led us into a totally needless War.

    This is probably over you head but the simple truths are that the Underclasses/White trash/Lower unskilled Working classes are there because they are not very bright. There ARE some exceptions to the rule but I'm talking generally.

    There is NOTHING to stop them from climbing up the ladder.

    They are NOT facing DISCRIMINATION and RACISM every day of their lives.

    They are there because they aren't very bright. Its sad but its true.

    In contrast different races have different IQ's for the very reason pointed out so ably by SAM. They are poorly nourished, have little in the way of crops and all this was brilliantly explalined by the far more knowledgeable SAM.

    I'm just a humble self taught intellectual but I know far more than you so. But not for one second would I claim to be knowledgeable about science. I learnt from bitter experience and on the street. I know who are the racists and who aren't.

    If I have a chance to help some poor white trash or a poor african then if forced to make the choice I give my hand to the African. The white man can heave himself up by himself whilst the African cannot.
     
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