Why do people die from very severe fevers?

Discussion in 'Pseudoscience' started by FrankBaker, May 20, 2014.

  1. Trippy ALEA IACTA EST Staff Member

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    This is so...

    I don't even know where to start...

    Saying something is unlikely to be observed directly in a lab is one thing, but, are you saying that there are no testable predictions that can be made apart from "It happens?"
     
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  3. origin In a democracy you deserve the leaders you elect. Valued Senior Member

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    You could do SPC, spontaneous pig combustion

    Or

    SAC, Spontaneous ardvark combustion

    Or

    SRT, spontaneous rat combustion.
     
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  5. How do you propose that a dropped cigarette or match caused burns from the inside out? (That's what the doctor said).
     
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  7. Enmos Registered Senior Member

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    How did the doctor know that?
     
  8. Took a biopsy. If there is more severe burn damage on the inner layers than the outer layers, logically the fire (or simply heat) came from within first.
    There's nothing else that could cause a person nowhere near an ignition source, cigarette etc. to suddenly be on fire.
     
  9. Motor Daddy ☼☼☼☼☼☼☼☼☼☼☼ Valued Senior Member

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    Maybe he was getting too old too fast and dried up like fertilizer dust, and had a sort of controlled explosion from within.

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  10. Motor Daddy ☼☼☼☼☼☼☼☼☼☼☼ Valued Senior Member

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    He was probably dehydrated! The old chap needed to hydrate himself!

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  11. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    There is no such thing as a biopsy test that tests for "burns."
     
  12. No, but the doctor could've taken a skin sample and found that the deeper layers of tissue were more severely burnt hinting at a source of heat that originated from inside the body.

    I'd also like to ask if enzymes are denatured by ROS/reactive chemicals as easily as heat.
     
  13. Kittamaru Suppose it makes sense. Wearing a bit thin. Valued Senior Member

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    To be fair, if the fire had actually started on the inside, there is a high chance the poor bastard would have died from a collapsed lung/massive internal damage/etc as the fluid internal to the body turned to steam and built up pressure... I mean, the body is pretty darn good at keeping stuff inside inside and stuff outside outside...
     
  14. Arne Saknussemm trying to figure it all out Valued Senior Member

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    I don't know why people die of severe fevers either, but I can tell you I once had a lung infection, that we took for typhus until I checked into a hospital. I had a temperature of 106 degrees intermittently for two or three days, or more (who knows?). I could not think! Just incomplete phrases would repeat themselves endlessly in my head like a scratched LP record. I slept quite a lot, and every time I woke I was astonished to discover that I was still alive. Not pleased, not thankful, just rather surprised and somewhat confused. How was this possible? I asked myself.

    We have heard of the five stages of death, but I had none of that. Just freezing cold as I lie under a quilt in an 86-degree room (in the tropics) and not enough mental coherence to have any hope...


    ...but I got better!

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  15. AlexG Like nailing Jello to a tree Valued Senior Member

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    Proteins begin to denature at 105.8 F, so you're certainly lucky.
     
  16. Still haven't answered my question as to whether ROS/reactive oxidizing chemicals denature enzymes as readily as heat is supposed to.
     
  17. danshawen Valued Senior Member

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    Obviously, this unfortunate man was hit by one of those "Oh my God Particles" that Sylwester Kornowsky was raving about. Wow! I think I just connected the dots.

    Sometimes I miss Prof Irwin Corey.
     

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