Why do people believe in god?

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  1. NMSquirrel OCD ADHD THC IMO UR12 Valued Senior Member

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    can't know him until you study him..see above post.
    you can know OF him..but until you devote study to him, you can't know him.
     
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  3. markl323 Registered Senior Member

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    why? because science confuses them.

    "God created everything in 7 days"

    vs

    "...Using the Big Bang model it is possible to calculate the concentration of helium-4, helium-3, deuterium and lithium-7 in the Universe as ratios to the amount of ordinary hydrogen, H.[40] All the abundances depend on a single parameter, the ratio of photons to baryons, which itself can be calculated independently from the detailed structure of CMB fluctuations. The ratios predicted (by mass, not by number) are about 0.25 for 4
    He/H, about 10−3 for 2
    H/H, about 10−4 for 3
    He/H and about 10−9 for 7
    Li/H.[40]..."

    it's not hard to see which of the two is the "winning" theory here!
     
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  5. kx000 Valued Senior Member

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    And you know him?
     
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  7. kx000 Valued Senior Member

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    Still not close to explaining planets, let alone Earth.
     
  8. viky1147 Registered Member

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    There is no proof for god's presence. Neither for the absence. To me showing love, helping others, leading a life with discipline with defined rules is god

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  9. Enmos Staff Member

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    How is that studying god?
     
  10. lightgigantic Banned Banned

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    inquiries leveled at theory (book) and application (practitioners) - kind of a standard approach don't you think?
     
  11. Enmos Staff Member

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    For standard subjects, yes. But god isn't a standard subject, isn't it?

    Science books contain knowledge that can be gathered by any one. The writers studied the subject in the real world and wrote the book so that others can learn without doing the actual research all over again.
    The practitioners get their information from those books.

    It is different for the subject of god. If god can only be studied from reading the book, how did the writers gather their information?
    It's like saying that physics can only be learned from a book.
     
  12. wynn ˙ Valued Senior Member

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    Still doesn't solve the problem of which religion is the right one.

    All kinds of books and people claim to be and talk "about God," but whether they really are and talk about God or not - how can one tell without being omniscient?
     
  13. lightgigantic Banned Banned

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    why not?

    so can practical application of theism
    same again
    ditto
    personal revelation - which is what application culminates in BTW

    only if one insists on examining physics removed from what it culminates in (namely the observation of the microcosmic world)
     
  14. lightgigantic Banned Banned

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    back to the old "how can one know unless one knows" argument - a surefire method to put the brakes on any sort of inquiry under the sun.

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  15. wynn ˙ Valued Senior Member

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    Don't

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    me.
    You are simply arguing for caveat emptor.
     
  16. lightgigantic Banned Banned

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    and demanding that one knows before one knows is the reasonable platform to begin any sort of inquiry?
     
  17. viky1147 Registered Member

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    if god created everything? then who created god? to me nature is god
     
  18. lightgigantic Banned Banned

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    then you are simply entertaining a world view that has nature as an eternal element as opposed to god (or even one that has both god and nature as eternal elements) ... which is practically a hair breadth away from fully fledged atheism.
     
  19. viky1147 Registered Member

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    in most of the religion, god has a physical appearance of a human. humans evolved from apes. this clearly says that god is completely imaginary. there is a supernatural power behind everything. and that is nature
     
  20. lightgigantic Banned Banned

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    So even to run with your ideas of evolution - a god that shapes the existence of the higher wrung of species (ie humans) to take on characteristics similar to his own has necessarily rendered himself imaginary?
    that is certainly not clear .....

    You are not really saying anything - the super natural - by definition - is beyond nature (hence the adding of "super" before it)
     
  21. viky1147 Registered Member

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    couldnt get you buddy. wat are you trying to say?
     
  22. lightgigantic Banned Banned

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    about what?
    the supernatural or the idea of god being false because humans share similar characteristics?
     
  23. Enmos Staff Member

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    Because god is, by definition, supernatural and thus unobservable.


    Your response makes no sense. We were talking about studying god.

    Wrong.

    I know. So what?

    Your mean fantasy or delusion. There is no evidence for any of it. Not the same as science. You can study evidence where there is evidence, not where there is none.

    Reproducible evidence...
     

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