Why aren't all animals becoming smarter?

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  1. spuriousmonkey Banned Banned

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    caution: I'm going to slap the authority argument in your face now.



    it's the same kind of rubbish I publish in peer-reviewed journals.
     
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  3. Reiku Banned Banned

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    Spurious... evolutionary peer review yes? If it isn't directly QM, rgwn please, stay out.
     
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  5. spuriousmonkey Banned Banned

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    speak english man!
     
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  7. Reiku Banned Banned

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    Give it up.
     
  8. spuriousmonkey Banned Banned

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    ???
     
  9. Reiku Banned Banned

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    As if
     
  10. spuriousmonkey Banned Banned

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    can anyone else translate the one post besides the author?
     
  11. Billy T Use Sugar Cane Alcohol car Fuel Valued Senior Member

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    By "QM" I think Reiku refers to "Qunatum Mechanic" but the rest is also a loss to me.

    but why bother?

    Reiku does not want to learn, or can not:

    As I explained in some detail his error / his nonsense in post 150/ and even told the probable cause of his false belief that some human must "observe" to make the wave function collapse as follows:

    "BTW, your confusion, misunderstanding etc. is probably caused by the use in English word "observation" when quantum theory is described to those who have little real understanding of it (Never did a calculation of even the classic particle in well problem). It is very unfortunate that "observation" is used instead of "classical interaction." If "classical interaction" were used instead, then you would not have posted such nonsense. Film does make a "classical interaction" with the photon."

    I had earlier in post 158 used photgraphic detection to ilustrate that even an inamimate object (the photographic film) is causing the collapse of the wave function. etc. If I do say so myself, almost any idiot could have learned from post 158 that "obsevation" does not, as many ignorantly think, refer to a human looking.
     
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  12. spuriousmonkey Banned Banned

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    I'd imagine that would be true. It seems strange it would depend on the observer being human

    The same point from another perspective: observation couldn't be possibly be dependent on humans, because humans are constantly changing. Would observation have been possible 10,000 years ago? 50,000 years? 300,000 years in another hominid lineage? If it was dependent on humans there would be parents of some human ancestor who would not be capable of observation and their child would. Because it seems observation is either on or off.
     
  13. Orleander OH JOY!!!! Valued Senior Member

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    I think animals aren't getting smarter because half of them are male.

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    There, I said it. Try and disprove it.
     
  14. fo3 acdcrocks Registered Senior Member

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    There

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  15. Captain Kremmen All aboard, me Hearties! Valued Senior Member

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    Given the myriad of species that have been produced, and the lack of high intelligence species that have succeeded (=1, if we can be said to have suceeded), perhaps smart is not so smart in evolutionary terms.
     
  16. Billy T Use Sugar Cane Alcohol car Fuel Valued Senior Member

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    Yes, that is probably correct but caused by the diverting attraction of the females. Thus the fundamental problem is the existence and proximity of females.

    Please note that the first period of rapid intellectual advance in humans was during the 500 years BC peroid when a few of the smarter Greek males discovered that young boys could "releave sexual tensions" and dispensed with using females for that.

    There is also a very old song of which I can only remember the first part. That is:

    "Rubin, Rubin, I've been thinking: What a grand world this would be,
    If all the women were transported, far beyond the Northern sea.

    ...."

    Pesonnally, if this should ever be done, I want to go north with them.

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  17. spuriousmonkey Banned Banned

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    there are animals that have more females than males. None of them is particularly known for being extremely smart.
     
  18. Billy T Use Sugar Cane Alcohol car Fuel Valued Senior Member

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    True, but those few males sure seem to be.

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  19. sniffy Banned Banned

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    Holy mary mother of god! Or something like that.
     
  20. sniffy Banned Banned

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    Humans have 'dominated' the planet for about 2/300 years or so. In the next 2/300 years we will see where exactly that has gotten them/us.
    Ego in extremitis...or what?
     
  21. Captain Kremmen All aboard, me Hearties! Valued Senior Member

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    My own belief is that the idea of human superiority is false.
    If anything, we are a freak of nature, which by some chance or mischance has survived, and our survival may wreck the delicate web which has been created by creatures not becoming more intelligent than they need be to survive as a species.
     
  22. Ophiolite Valued Senior Member

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    It is certainly unscientific. Superior in what regard. No human can run as fast as a cheetah; no human can fly unaided; no human can dive to the depths of a blue whale; no human can survive in black smokers; no human can digest cellulose. On the other hand we are bloody good generalists, like pigs; and we can survive in diverse and hostiel environments, like cockroaches.
     
  23. Captain Kremmen All aboard, me Hearties! Valued Senior Member

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    For a long period of the earths history, the first creatures hardly evolved at all.
    The bacteria, forming clumps and crusts, stayed much the same for about 2 billion years, and it was only when the earth's temperature was subject to wild swings that things started to diversify.
     

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