Why are we so responsive to MUSIC?

Discussion in 'Human Science' started by aaqucnaona, Jun 9, 2012.

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  1. wlminex

    wlminex Banned Banned

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    Off-the wall . . . the primary vibration of the universe is an extremely high octave of B-flat (I read this somewhere). This vibration is modulated and shifted in all matter by a spectrum of quantum field influences. Relax and enjoy the orchestration, regardless of what makes the music!
     
    wlminex, Aug 9, 2012
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  3. Trooper

    Trooper Secular Sanity Valued Senior Member

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    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Music_and_political_warfare

     
    Trooper, Aug 9, 2012
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  5. Fraggle Rocker

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    Indeed. But my point is that over the past twelve thousand years, since the Agricultural Revolution created the first food surplus the planet had ever seen and humans no longer had to regard strangers as hated and feared competitors for a scarce resource, we have slowly and steadily been increasing the size of the in-group. In the Paleolithic Era it was a few dozen extended-family members. In the Neolithic (stone age agriculture) it was a village of a couple of hundred people who knew each other but not necessarily well. At the dawn of civilization (literally "the building of cities") it increased by another order of magnitude, so people may have recognized each other but not been truly acquainted. The Bronze Age, the Iron Age... each successive Paradigm Shift added a zero to the size of the in-group, which was no longer just the city itself but a trading network of cities whose inhabitants accepted each other as members of the same overgrown "pack," which was now much closer to a "herd" of anonymous strangers. The Industrial Revolution took it far beyond that, resulting in "nations" of tens or hundreds of millions of people who may squabble among themselves over cultural differences but in a crisis band together in solidarity against other nations.

    Today we have trans-national in-groups. Till the end of time, Americans will always be willing to die to protect England, and Mexicans feel the same way about the USA. Europeans were shooting each other at the beginning of the last century, now they're loaning each other money. This solidarity is a little slower to take root in other parts of the world, evidence that it's a phenomenon of the current in-progress Paradigm Shift, the Information Age. It takes hold where people form communities electronically, such as this one you and I belong to even though we don't know each other's names or physical locations.

    I frequently cite a specific incident as evidence of this continuation of the expansion of the in-group, because it made me (and many Americans) cry. Our government has been telling us for 30 years that Iran is our enemy and Iranians are not to be trusted. Yet when Neda Aga Soltan was gunned down in the streets of Tehran by agents of a repressive government, onlookers transmitted real-time cellphone videos of the event throughout the world. Americans wept for Neda; she was our friend, our daughter, our sister, governments be damned! Country music singers, representatives of the most xenophobic portion of our population, wrote songs about her.

    Yes, the day of a single global "in-group" is on the way. Just be patient.
    Let's not forget that the psittacines (the parrot order: parrots, macaws, cockatoos, budgies, parakeets, lories, conures, etc.) are the most intelligent of all birds; the "primates" of class Aves. They have a lot in common with humans.
     
    Fraggle Rocker, Aug 9, 2012
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  7. NMSquirrel

    NMSquirrel OCD ADHD THC IMO UR12 Valued Senior Member

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    Music doesn't get anywhere unless it appeals to an emotion..

    we won't listen to any music that doesn't make us feel something..
     
    NMSquirrel, Aug 9, 2012
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  8. Trooper

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    I mentioned earlier in post #89, Patel’s research on species, other than humans, which have the capability to keep a beat. It was thought that only species capable of mimicking sound were also the only ones capable of keeping a beat, implying an evolutionary link between the two. The belief that rhythmic entrainment was linked to vocal mimicry was supported by two studies inspired by Snowball, the dancing cockatoo. But for first time, Peter Cook has trained a sea lion to dance, indicating that beat keeping may not be an adaptation of vocal mimicry after all.

    [video=youtube;6yS6qU_w3JQ]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=6yS6qU_w3JQ[/video]

    "The fact is our sea lion has gotten really good at keeping the beat," said Peter Cook, who has led the study since publishing an abstract last year. "Our finding represents a cautionary note for an idea that was really starting to take hold in the field of comparative psychology." And Ronan has displayed somewhat more refined taste than Snowball, too — her favorite song is "Boogie Wonderland" by Earth, Wind & Fire.
     
    Trooper, Apr 2, 2013
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  9. BiologyOfReligion

    BiologyOfReligion Registered Member

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    Very cool. It seems that people expect animals to like human music and rhythm as if animals should be like people. It's anthropomorphic and homocentric.

    Alworth & Buerkle (FEB 2013 labanimal.com) reviewed studies of music's effects on animals and found, "The effects of music exposure are not the same for all music styles, animal species or situations, and playing music for captive species has the potential to increase stress or impair welfare," i.e. inconsistent results. The reason that animals like some music is probably because certain frequencies and beats approximate sounds the animals are attuned/adapted to, usually in relations between conspecifics. In other words, human music might be coincidentally similar to animal sounds.
     
    BiologyOfReligion, Apr 3, 2013
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  10. kmguru

    kmguru Staff Member

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    string theory...
     
    kmguru, Apr 3, 2013
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  11. annikkaa

    annikkaa Registered Member

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    Did you hear of BRECVEM model of emotional response to music? That might be interesting to you, it's the model by Patrick Juslin. Unfortunately I'm new here and can't send you a link, but you can just google it.
     
    annikkaa, Apr 27, 2013
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  12. annikkaa

    annikkaa Registered Member

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    it's an april fools' joke, that sea lion.))))
     
    annikkaa, Apr 27, 2013
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  13. Trooper

    Trooper Secular Sanity Valued Senior Member

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    Trooper, Aug 7, 2013
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