Why Are Atheists Treated Worse Than Other Unbelievers?

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  1. lixluke Refined Reinvention Valued Senior Member

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    Atheism is a religion. Atheists are unbelievers in God. But they are believers that there is no God. And they believe that they aren't fanatics.
     
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  3. PsychoticEpisode It is very dry in here today Valued Senior Member

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    Believers are treated worse than atheists by other believers. The ME is what? ...a believer's paradise.

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    Has an atheist choirboy ever become the bumboy for a paedophile priest? Do atheists pretend they're chowing down Christ's body parts? Do atheist women willingly join Xian cults to be sexually exploited?

    As an atheist its just plain hard to get out of the line of fire when believers start knocking heads.
     
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  5. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    After listening to the opinions of some atheists here, I'm surprised that any of them would even need to ask this question.
     
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  7. lixluke Refined Reinvention Valued Senior Member

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    Atheists have an irrational tendency to fear the term "belief" as if it's a plague. Unfortunately, anything anybody claims to know is their belief.
     
  8. KennyJC Registered Senior Member

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    It's posts like this that remind me why I don't bother posting here anymore. The only thing religious apologists have left to offer is that non-belief is the same as belief... which even if true, I have no idea how it makes the atheist vs religious nutjob debate 50/50. It's not 50/50.
     
  9. fiicere Registered Member

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  10. phlogistician Banned Banned

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    I'm not blaming all religions, sorry if it comes across that way, I'm blaming the most popular Abrahamic schisms for all the evil they have perpetrated, and those that still proselytise such schisms, and fail to recognise, or accept blame for their appalling history.
     
  11. phlogistician Banned Banned

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    No it's not. There is no central tenet, no practice, no core belief, no ritual. It fails to qualify as a religion.

    Correct.

    Some do, but that's not what atheism is. You still don't grasp set theory, do you?

    I know I'm not a fanatic. I'm very calm and reasoned in my rejection of religion. You guys show fanatical tendencies, when you start twisting words and making false accusations about atheism. That's your frustration showing. Now, argue honestly, or resign the debate.
     
  12. fiicere Registered Member

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    No. It's neither scientific, nor a proof.

    But let's not hear any more nonsense about "no evidence."
     
  13. fiicere Registered Member

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    Yes. Contrary to popular beliefs, not all theists are uneducated provincial people living in some backwater. This one at least is working on his MEng at MIT.

    But anyways, you were saying that you have OBSERVED mysticism? Meaning that you can prove in a scientifically rigorous way that the faith behind those beliefs is, in fact, blind? As in, you have OBSERVED that I have no rationale for my beliefs, but have merely accepted them without thinking about them?

    Good Luck.


    I've already told you.

    If you'll notice, I was making fun of you. The fact that people have used religion to kill people and the fact that people have used science to kill people must either imply that both are at fault or neither is.

    Please don't be a total idiot. Obviously I was not implying that killing was the only part of our psyche. Just like reproducing is part of our psyche. But I don't have to explain why everybody doesn't have kids.

    Clearly, that part was not meant for you.
     
  14. phlogistician Banned Banned

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    If it's not scientific, it's mere allegory, and doesn't count as 'evidence'.

    And no, I haven't read it, there is no point, I've read enough twisted cherry picked factoids, I doubt you have anything fresh.

    The problem you have, is that you need to counter science, with science. Cosmology, abiogenesis are all scientific arguments. Until you have scientific evidence for a counter theory, you have no evidence at all.
     
  15. Jan Ardena OM!!! Valued Senior Member

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    Then blame the individuals who chose to interpret the scripture in such a way
    as to justify their actions. The church is NOT 'religion'.

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  16. lixluke Refined Reinvention Valued Senior Member

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    Non-belief is not the same as belief. Non-theism is not atheism. Atheism is a belief.

    Yes it is.
     
  17. phlogistician Banned Banned

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    The Catholic Church is definitely a religion, and went on a rampage, called 'The Inquisitions'. Please name me an incident where similar happened in the name of not believing in something.
     
  18. phlogistician Banned Banned

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    Oh, poor lix, can't grasp the basics.

    What's your point with all the lies anyway lix? Do you have some point to make, that you need to base upon this lie?
     
  19. (Q) Encephaloid Martini Valued Senior Member

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    So, something that is the opposite of itself is the same as itself?

    Stellar logic, there.

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  20. Jan Ardena OM!!! Valued Senior Member

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    Is this part of the catholic religion?
    Do current catholics agree with the inquistitions, or still paying homage to them?
    If it is not a part of the religion of the bible, and
    ceases to exist, how are these acts considered religious?

    jan.
     
  21. phlogistician Banned Banned

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    Jan, you are starting to sound a little ignorant of history now. Go read about it, and answer your own questions.

    Current Catholics aren't so disgusted by the former activities of their organisation that they quit, are they? At least very few people these days profess being a member of the 'National Socialist' party these days, and people distance themselves from it. So yes, Catholics clearly think it's OK to be associated with the Inquisitions, and obviously don't see any shame in that association.
     
  22. phlogistician Banned Banned

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    Here;

    http://www.sciforums.com/showpost.php?p=2331632&postcount=217

    Jan linked to a definition of Theist.

    Seems Lix thinks not being a theist makes people take a firmer stance than being one. I guess by Jan's definition, even the term 'anti-theist' would still not qualify as a belief God does not exist!

    Ah, I'd love lix to try and back up some of his assertions, merely than flaccidly restating them. I could do with a laugh.
     
  23. lixluke Refined Reinvention Valued Senior Member

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    What? How?
     

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