Why am I aware?

Discussion in 'General Philosophy' started by just me, Dec 6, 2019.

  1. just me Registered Senior Member

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    this is about what consciousness is
     
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  3. Seattle Valued Senior Member

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    What about it?
     
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  5. just me Registered Senior Member

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    what it is, and whether anyone can tell me and justify their claim.
     
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  7. just me Registered Senior Member

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    its relevant to my objective that I know this.
     
  8. James R Just this guy, you know? Staff Member

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    Tell us your thoughts, first.
     
  9. Seattle Valued Senior Member

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    Why should we care?
     
  10. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    Indeed. "It's just sciforums for christ sake."
     
  11. wegs Matter & Pixie Dust Valued Senior Member

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    Awareness is overrated. Some days, wish I was unaware.

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  12. sculptor Valued Senior Member

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    what many consider consciousness has to do with the internal dialogue---the use of the conscious mind, --
    When sculpting if I reach a point where the internal dialogue stops, and the conscious mind ceases control, I do my best work
    The same is true for shooting/hunting--better to not think about it, just do it.
    for many things, consciousness seems overrated
     
  13. C C Consular Corps - "the backbone of diplomacy" Valued Senior Member

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    Non-consciousness is easy to define. When you're dead and the brain ceases its functioning everything disappears -- all the manifestations and feelings. The personal thoughts and imaginings and the visual, auditory, tactile, olfactory sensations concerning the immediate world. There is not even a presence and identification of "nothingness" or "silence".

    So simply flip that around to the opposite and you have the biological version of consciousness: Phenomenal evidence of yourself existing as well as an external environment. With language activity (appearing as visual symbols and sounds) describing and facilitating recognition and the understanding of "what's going on".

    However, machines have that experience-less version of interacting with their surroundings as I mentioned here in your other thread. Problem is, without those phenomenal affairs they can't experientially verify that they're engaging in an "invisible" version of awareness. There are "confirming" processes taking place in their systems that guide their behavior and actions, but those are also "invisible" -- without manifested evidence just as their own robot bodies and the world lack such substantiation of their existence in that manner.
     
  14. Seattle Valued Senior Member

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    and some day you are, amiright!

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  15. wegs Matter & Pixie Dust Valued Senior Member

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    We need a dislike feature on SF.
     
  16. Seattle Valued Senior Member

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    No, not that!
     
  17. sideshowbob Sorry, wrong number. Valued Senior Member

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    Some members are not aware of likes.
     
  18. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    it is more about you asking everyone else to give their opinion before you post yours.
    but thats ok

    the good thing is you didnt post in the religion area

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  19. just me Registered Senior Member

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    no reason. but you clearly do because you are replying.
     
  20. just me Registered Senior Member

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    sure yea, so that they don't get caught up with telling me how wrong I am and instead post helpful answers.
     
  21. just me Registered Senior Member

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    fine, and then tell me how wrong I am instead of posting helpful answers if you all must.

    my thoughts are that it is the same as existence, and that it is situated at some place inside the brain, as some physical thing, rather than an emergent property.

    that's the gist of it.
     
  22. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    days wished for not ware
    nude ambivalence Laissez-faire
    nights dreamt of cares undone
    to become
    the other one
    fair thee not for Laissez-faire
    when thoughts are not your underware

    i dig your vibe
    filter aspects tend to garner different responses
    sometimes disinterest
    sometimes it serves your thread better to ignore some responses.
     
  23. James R Just this guy, you know? Staff Member

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    Consciousness is the same as existence? I don't think so. A rock exists. That is not the same as the rock being conscious, as far as I can tell.

    That sounds a bit vague. What kind of physical thing are you thinking of? A physical "consciousness nugget" separate from the brain tissue? Or perhaps a special section of the brain devoted to processing consciousness? Or what?

    Are you aware that neuroscientists haven't identified any localised site of consciousness in the brain? To me, that suggests that consciousness is a distributed function of the brain, at least.
     

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