why AIDS can't be spread by mosquitoes?

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  1. atanu2531 Registered Member

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    why AIDS can't be spread by mosquitoes?
     
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  3. Prince_James Plutarch (Mickey's Dog) Registered Senior Member

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    I think a mosquito drinks all the blood it can from one person. Also: The virus likely doesn't stay on the pricker of the mosquito.
     
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  5. TimeTraveler Immortalist Registered Senior Member

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    Who says it can't? It can also be spread by vaccines, or needles.
     
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  7. Voodoo Child Registered Senior Member

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    My guess would be that the fragility of the virus outside the body, that the blood is digested and the fact that mosquitoes are unlikely to feed so soon after the first meal.
     
  8. Sandoz Girl Named Sandoz Registered Senior Member

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    The blood is digested and breaks away the virus.

    The logical question becomes: why don't you inject mosquito stomach fluid in AIDS patients?
     
  9. pilpaX amateur-science.com Registered Senior Member

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  10. TheVisitor The Journey is the Reward Registered Senior Member

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    I knew someone once that was going to write a book about a government cover up to avoid panic that would ensue if people were told mosquitoes transmitted AIDS......I bet it would have sold big.
    It takes ten to twenty years for the gestation from HIV to full blown AIDS.
    By then the entire world would be infected.....another twenty years after that and........curtains.

    But after further research it seems mosquitoes transmit viruses like malaria, and yellow fever through their own saliva.
    HIV is a "blood-borne" virus and is transmitted from blood to blood contact.
    The virus also must remain within a certain temperature to survive.
    This makes transmission via mosquito unlikly.......or we'd all be dead by now.
     
  11. phlogistician Banned Banned

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    Bleach breaks down the virus too, do you now see the illogic of your question?
     
  12. TruthSeeker Fancy Virtual Reality Monkey Valued Senior Member

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    It takes a certain amount of virus load to actually trigger it. For instance, you can have sex with someone who has AIDS and still not get AIDS if there was not enough virus transmitted. Therefore, if it takes a certain amount of blood to transmit the disease, a mosquito would certainly not be able to transmit enough of the virus.

    This is why it is easier for women to get it from men (or men from other men... yewww...

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  13. valich Registered Senior Member

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    We had a forum on this last year called: "How Do You Get AIDS?"

    Digestive acids do not always destroy the virus, so you can still pass HIV by having oral sex. You cannot get HIV through mosquito bites or other insects. Despite intensive research on this, even in areas of high HIV populations, mosquitos do not transmit HIV because they do not release any of the blood from the previous victim they injested it from and it exists only for a short time in their interior. Likewise, when blood, semen, or vaginal secretions are placed on surfaces outside of the body, the virus still exists in the fluid, but not for a prolonged period of time. Even 40 degrees Celcius will not kill the HIV virus, and there is no known cure.

    We had an indepth discussion of HIV/AIDS on this previous thread but I think it is worth reposting here:

    According to the United States Center for Disease Control (for further contact information, see bottom of this posting. They are very polite professionals and you don't have to give them your name or anything. You can remain anonymous):

    "HIV is passed by semen, presemenal fluid, blood, vaginal secretions, and breast milk. Even with oral sex there is a high probabilty of contracting HIV, for both males and females, because the semen or vaginal fluid is absorbed through the mucous membranes in your mouth even before it gets down to your stomach. So it is not true that the stomach acids kill the virus before it is absorbed.

    It's unlikely, but possible, to get HIV from kissing depending on the intensity and type of kissing, for instance, like French kissing - deep and prolonged. When I questioned the specialist about this she said that it was because of the greater risk of breaking open a membrane lining within the mouth, but it is not transmittable directly through saliva.

    You cannot get HIV from masturbating, although it is possible to get HIV from masturbating with a partner if the other persons semen is placed in contact with your own semen, preseminal fluid, blood, or mucous membranes.

    HIV is passed directly into your body from sharing HIV contaminated needles and syringes, and this can happen during intravenous drug use, getting a tattoo, or injecting vitamins or steroids."

    Our government county health services department puts out a brochure, especially geared toward the education of our young'uns and their health. It specifically states that HIV is transmitted through "semen, blood, and vaginal secretions." This was further varied numerous times through my indepth discussion with one of the specialists at the United States Government Center for Disease Control (CDC), also see below. She also told: "not just semen, but also the preseminal fluid that comes out before ejaculation." They have an extensive database of most all - possibly all - research done in areas of transmittable disease. Again, anyone can call them toll-free at 1-800-342-2437.

    Suprisingly to me, the CDC's website also states that the HIV virus is found in small quantities in saliva! But no proof [yet] that it can be transmitted that way:

    "HIV has been found in saliva and tears in very low quantities from some AIDS patients. It is important to understand that finding a small amount of HIV in a body fluid does not necessarily mean that HIV can be transmitted by that body fluid. HIV has not been recovered from the sweat of HIV-infected persons. Contact with saliva, tears, or sweat has never been shown to result in transmission of HIV."

    "Although HIV has been transmitted between family members in a household setting, this type of transmission is very rare. These transmissions are believed to have resulted from contact between skin or mucous membranes and infected blood."

    "Kissing: Casual contact through closed-mouth or "social" kissing is not a risk for transmission of HIV. Because of the potential for contact with blood during "French" or open-mouth kissing [greater risk of breaking the linings of mucous membranes in the mouth], CDC recommends against engaging in this activity with a person known to be infected. However, the risk of acquiring HIV during open-mouth kissing is believed to be very low. CDC has investigated only one case of HIV infection that may be attributed to contact with blood during open-mouth kissing."
    http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/pubs/facts/transmission.htm

    "Can I get HIV from oral sex?"
    Yes, it is possible for either partner to become infected with HIV through performing or receiving oral sex. There have been a few cases of HIV transmission from performing oral sex on a person infected with HIV. While no one knows exactly what the degree of risk is, evidence suggests that the risk is less than that of unprotected anal or vaginal sex.

    If the person performing oral sex has HIV, blood from their mouth may enter the body of the person receiving oral sex through:

    1) the lining of the urethra (the opening at the tip of the penis);
    2) the lining of the vagina or cervix;
    3) the lining of the anus; or
    4) directly into the body through small cuts or open sores.

    If the person receiving oral sex has HIV, their blood, semen (cum), pre-seminal fluid (pre-cum), or vaginal fluid may contain the virus. Cells lining the mouth of the person performing oral sex may allow HIV to enter their body.

    The risk of HIV transmission increases:

    1) if the person performing oral sex has cuts or sores around or in their mouth or throat;
    2) if the person receiving oral sex ejaculates in the mouth of the person performing oral sex; or
    3) if the person receiving oral sex has another sexually transmitted disease (STD).

    Not having (abstaining from) sex is the most effective way to avoid HIV.
    If you choose to perform oral sex, and your partner is male, use a latex condom on the penis; or if you or your partner is allergic to latex, plastic (polyurethane) condoms can be used. Studies have shown that latex condoms are very effective, though not perfect, in preventing HIV transmission when used correctly and consistently. If either partner is allergic to latex, plastic (polyurethane) condoms for either the male or female can be used. For more information about latex condoms, see "Male Latex Condoms and Sexually Transmitted Diseases."

    If you choose to have oral sex, and your partner is female, use a latex barrier (such as a natural rubber latex sheet, a dental dam or a cut-open condom that makes a square) between your mouth and the vagina. A latex barrier such as a dental dam reduces the risk of blood or vaginal fluids entering your mouth. Plastic food wrap also can be used as a barrier.

    If you choose to perform oral sex with either a male or female partner and this sex includes oral contact with your partners anus (analingus or rimming), use a latex barrier (such as a natural rubber latex sheet, a dental dam or a cut-open condom that makes a square) between your mouth and the anus. Plastic food wrap also can be used as a barrier."
    http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/pubs/faq/faq19.htm

    If you would like more information or have personal concerns, call CDC-INFO 24 Hours/Day at 1-800-CDC-INFO (1-800-232-4636), 1-888-232-6348 (TTY).
    The General Information HIV/AIDS website is at: http://www.cdc.gov/hiv
     
  14. domesticated om Stickler for details Valued Senior Member

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    What if the mosquito bites someone with HIV, then moves to a second person and bites them. The second person notices the mosquito, and smacks their arm to squish the mosquito (you now have an open sore, and mosquito with a squished bloody abdomen). Would that transmit the disease?
     
  15. invert_nexus Ze do caixao Valued Senior Member

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    The mosquito's stomach enzymes destroy the hiv virus.

    Malaria is spread by a parasite especially adapted with the mosquito as a vector in it's life cycle. It's not a virus. It never makes it to the mosquito's stomach, it travels instead to the salivary glands.
     
  16. valich Registered Senior Member

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    Yes, this scenario is a remote possibility, but what are the chances of this every happening? The mosquitos newly ingested blood would have to get mixed with the recipients blood, and there is a certain minimum amount of the virus that would have to be inflicted to get it. In general, mosquitos feed every 2-3 days. By that time, the virus would already be ingested. A mosquito does not land on another host immediately.
     
  17. Xerxes asdfghjkl Valued Senior Member

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    I suppose this is a valid reason to stop eating mosquitos.
     
  18. Tiassa Let us not launch the boat ... Valued Senior Member

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    I figured flossing the damn things out of my teeth was reason enough.
     
  19. Saint Valued Senior Member

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    AIDS is created by fucking with animal - chimpenzee!
     
  20. Billy T Use Sugar Cane Alcohol car Fuel Valued Senior Member

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    Most people do not know that many, if not all, mosquitoes are fantastic sensors of CO2, which is at least an order of magnitude greater concentration in the exhaled breath than in the background air. - That is how they find you (then when near they switch to other homing mechanisms I will not describe.) This is why a camp fire offers some protections - so much CO2 produced that their long range homing on CO2 gradient is saturated and they only accidentally get close enough to you for their secondary homing to function (Still a third guidance system is used for the final "land on skin" step.) Their anti-coagulant is first injected (and your reaction to that protein is why they make bumps that itch). It is far better anti-coagulant than any man has made. I have wondered why it is so hard to make artificially for treatment of ischemic stroke etc. Does any one know?

    I have also wondered about the thread's question - has a post answered it?

    All in all, mosquitoes are one of nature's most amazing creatures.

    My cousin by marriage kills them in an interesting way as punishment for biting him. He tenses the mussel they have penetrated and this bends their proboscis so that cannot pull out when full. - His blood pressure then usually burst their blood sack. - Hey, what ever turns you on - who am I to judge?

    He does not seem to react much to their anti-coagulant - perhaps his killing technique helps drain it back out?
     
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  21. Chatha big brown was screwed up Registered Senior Member

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    I think AIDS is a synthetic ailment. There are just too many evidence. AIDS is probably used by certain groups in the African government to keep the population at a minimal. Here are my reasons

    1 Nobody knows where AIDS came from. How convenient. One way to treat a disease is to know about all its elements, by this you need to know how it started and where it naturaly came from. We know how cancer works so we have good ways to curb its effects and intricacies, we know cholera comes from water so we have a good idea of its bacteria, e.t.c AIDS has remained a mystery. The monkey story of how AIDS started is trully a "Monkey story", you can tell some guy cooked up that story. Till date nobody knows how AIDS work, which is why its generally called Aquired Immune Deficiency, knowing fully well that all diseases and ailments are "Aquired Immune Defficiencies", even the flu.

    2 Why haven't they found a cure? We can send a man to the moon but we can't cure AIDS. They is always a sketchy explanation or cure.

    3 If a virus can be so adaptive and intelligence as AIDS, then there should be a corresponding defense mechanism by the Human body. In the first place its not possible for a virus to be that intelligent, if viruses were that intelligent there would be no organized living thing on earth, so we know viruses aren't that intelligent. Argueably one could say viruses and bacterias evolved over the years, just as humans did, if this is the case humans should have adapted too. If AIDS was a natural virus, humans should have a greater resistance rate than they currently do. Vaccines are a good example. Vaccines are used at birth to help the body adapt to certain ailments, vaccines are nothing but the ailment itself. But we see that AIDS is a different case, God forbid you vaccinate someone with AIDS. For anything to be this intelligent it has to have had man made help. If AIDS came from Chimpanzees they should have died of AIDS too, they should have died of "Aquired Immune Difficiency", no animals can survive an immune deficiency. By now you would think that the most advanced living organism on earth would be better adapted and immune to many natural ailments.

    4 Medicine or lack of. In Africa there is always one ailment or the other, first it was Malaria, then it was AIDS, and then Ebola Virus. And its interesting how these diseases are all related to certain groups of people. People have been surviving in that region for hundreds of years until now. These people have had their own cures for ailments ong before the pharmaceuticals. Malaria for example was prevented and treated by natural Chloroquin found from certain barks of certain trees. Yet Malaria manages to be the number one killer of humans over the years. You would at least think that they would have been better adapted for Malaria...right? No, Malaria is the number one killer of people in Africa.

    5 Experients. There are accounts of pharmacuetical groups going to remote parts of Africa and experimenting with medicine, most of it is undercover and many of it never gets out or published. The food and drug industry of developed nations are the most profitable sectors. Why? Because they make their money from diseases and ailments. They don't give a crap about humanity, if they did they will subsidize AIDS medication and make it widely available. Instead they rake in huge profits from carefuly engineering diseases and pathogens. And in cases where there are no dieases and pathogen, they make up one, Restless leg syndrom, SARS, Ebola Virus, are example. To me AIDS is a synthetics disease, somebody messed up something somewhere.
     
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  22. valich Registered Senior Member

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    Do a little research on viruses and HIV before you start posting off-the-shelf nutcase lounatic replies.
     
  23. domesticated om Stickler for details Valued Senior Member

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    Lots of diseases haven't been cured (IE- influenza, herpes, cancer, ALS, alzeimers, etc). What makes AIDS so special? Maybe we have to send a man to mars to cure those.........or maybe lift weights to become mathmaticians.......or call Burger King and order a pizza.
     

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