whodunit?

Discussion in 'Free Thoughts' started by leopold, Jul 9, 2006.

  1. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    I just read his first post; his entire premise sounds faulty. How can both distance and speed be infinite? makes no sense to me.
     
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  3. Absane Rocket Surgeon Valued Senior Member

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    No... it's all limited to the workout (situp, pushup, running, swimming). However I am still working on the elusive pullup.. I am just a few days away from getting one pullup

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    For that, I am using a weight machine to work my lats.. and I am doing a few dips to help (I think they do).



    Oh... I read the original again and I missed it

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    I never liked geometry. It's odd, but I don't.
     
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  5. Oli Heute der Enteteich... Registered Senior Member

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    No I think it's more than spelling. That second reference gives 5 different defintions of "infinty", so the opposite is
    1) finite
    2) bounded
    3) definitely large or indefintely small
    4) a function I can't bothered to work out

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    5a ) screwed up focus the camera/ telescope
    5b ) a focus on the camera where nothing is in focus
     
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  7. Absane Rocket Surgeon Valued Senior Member

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    I see what he means when he talks about that... but just as you did, I sensed a faulty premise. I think for most of the thread I was mostly working to figure out what that faulty premise was... since I wasn't even sure.. so I just keep picking at his points and see what he thinks about that.. then I pick some more.
     
  8. Absane Rocket Surgeon Valued Senior Member

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    I think that might be why I am having trouble with the word "finity."

    Well if it cannot be defined, then there is no point in doing such

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    Lol.. what?
     
  9. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    Well if speed is distance over time then time would be infinite too and thats equal to what? standing still? Weird.
     
  10. Absane Rocket Surgeon Valued Senior Member

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    Well if I remember correctly... he is making the argument that infinity/infinity = 0... but he fails to see that it really doesn't make sense.
     
  11. Oli Heute der Enteteich... Registered Senior Member

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    That's exactly what I was going to say. But I can see his reasoning, sort of. If the distance is anything LESS than infinity and the speed is infinite then the time will be zero. 5/infinity = zero. 6/infinity = 0. etc. But infinity/ infinity, as you said in the third or fourth post is undefined and indefinable. Like operating with singularities. It just falls apart...
     
  12. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    A lot of people who like math don't like geometry. I wonder why
     
  13. Absane Rocket Surgeon Valued Senior Member

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    You are looking at the limit of n/x where n is a number and x gets bigger and bigger (limits in calculus).

    The limit of any of those is zero. However, what about this? (2x)/x? It looks like infinity/infinity which would SEEM to be zero... however as you can see, (2x)/x = 2... the limit is 2.

    My point is not limits or calculus.. but that you have to know what you are working with before you make a claim.
     
  14. Oli Heute der Enteteich... Registered Senior Member

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    If he's talking (originally at least) about distance and speed then that narrows it down, no? So we're back to t=s/v. If s is infinite then regardless of v, t = is infinite. If v is infinite then t = zero. is s=v then t=1 etc. for all "values" of s, if s=v. I think that's what he's implying. But I could be wrong, and like you say when s=v=infinity then it doesn't work that way.
     
  15. leopold Valued Senior Member

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    you people sure do have the gift of gab

    yakkity yakkity yak yak and then some
     
  16. leopold Valued Senior Member

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    uh, i'll disagree
     
  17. Absane Rocket Surgeon Valued Senior Member

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    Well if that was the case, the thread would have ended pretty quick. Or maybe the thread would not have even have been.
     
  18. Oli Heute der Enteteich... Registered Senior Member

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    Okay. Disagree.

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    Which bit and why?
     
  19. leopold Valued Senior Member

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    infinity divided by infinity would be 1
     
  20. Absane Rocket Surgeon Valued Senior Member

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    I'd love to learn why.
     
  21. Absane Rocket Surgeon Valued Senior Member

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    I hope you are joking. If not, I am losing faith in SF.
     
  22. Oli Heute der Enteteich... Registered Senior Member

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    Read these, from TS, early on:

    Looks like he's missed the point and kept going.
     
  23. Oli Heute der Enteteich... Registered Senior Member

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    Nope. It's undefined.
     

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