When I die

Discussion in 'General Philosophy' started by universaldistress, Oct 14, 2012.

  1. universaldistress Extravagantly Introverted ... Valued Senior Member

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    One of my biggest fears is that when I die I will not be conscious. I want to die awake, not sedated, tranquilized or god forbid anaesthetized etc. If there is an experience to be had, spiritual or just brain shutting down hallucination, then I want to be lucid and able to process the whole thing. In fact, if I'm honest, I'm quite looking forward to it.

    Don't get me wrong, I don't want to die, I will fight to perpetuate this life as long as possible to achieve what I may; but when it does come I plan to go humbly and hopefully with a little awe.

    Any thoughts anyone?
     
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  3. Neverfly Banned Banned

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    When I die, I hope I take down the bastard that got me just before I do- anything else is fair game.
     
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  5. seagypsy Banned Banned

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    When I die, I hope to discover that I am wrong about life after death cuz I so wanna be a ghost so I can haunt certain people. maybe drive some crazy or even convince someone that I am god and create a new religion. .. I'll be dead so the chaos I cause would totally entertain me at that point.
     
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  7. Buddha12 Valued Senior Member

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    I'd rather just pass away while I'm asleep, which will probably happen because I have sleep apnea.
     
  8. Jeeves Valued Senior Member

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    When i die, i don't want to be there at all - anaesthetic, coma, knocked unconscious by a falling brick or asleep, doesn't matter, just so i get a head start on oblivion.
    My brother had a theory that whatever you experience in the last minutes before death is your personal eternity (because there is no 'after' to put in perspective) and i don't want that to be pain, fear, hate, sorrow or anger. Bliss or nothing.
     
  9. universaldistress Extravagantly Introverted ... Valued Senior Member

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    I had an idea similar to this: http://jasonwadehoward.blogspot.co.uk/2012/09/afterdeath.html
     
  10. Saturnine Pariah Hell is other people Valued Senior Member

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    When die I would just like to watch the world burn before i kick the bucket. I would like to die while sitting on a hill to watch the ember glow of it all just burn down to the ground.
    I'll just leave this here.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eeMoOJpvUlU&feature=my_liked_videos&list=LLKnTppulNLhBOD3rkM8ywbQ
    "They said me insane or even deranged for my lack of familiarity
    I stand apart from myself to see and understand what they say I should know
    Lips always talking, eyes always gawking, waiting for my response
    I stand or sit; only through this written plot can I truly elucidate my thoughts
    Social deviation, a verbal consecration is what I’ve been told I’ve committed with these words
    They always test my resolve everyday I think or talk.
    My stubborn obsession with my mental repression by those who placed me in the maze that is life, I must solve it for them.
    I wish to be free of all these “laws” that society deemed so fitting for the masses..still unaware of their blinders
    I wish to watch the world burn; my only yearning to be free is to see everything I hate burn down in front of me
    As the world burns I will not cry for that will be the day that I die." -Saturnine Pariah.
     
  11. Enmos Valued Senior Member

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    Well... I'd rather be unconscious when I die. That pretty much guarantees it's painless.
     
  12. Trooper Secular Sanity Valued Senior Member

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    Great video!

    I was under the impression that unlike narcissists, who avoid pain by excluding, devaluing, discarding, and treating people like doormats, aspies tend to withdrawal. I thought it was the narcissist, who did not care if they hurt anyone, and that aspies prefer not to.

    Misdiagnosed or the Joker? :bugeye:
     
  13. spidergoat Liddle' Dick Tater Valued Senior Member

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    You will never experience your own death anyway. Loss of consciousness precedes it.
     
  14. Mazulu Banned Banned

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    When I die, I plan to haunt a university physics department where there are lots of skeptics. Maybe a maniacal ghostly laugh while the professor is writing down the Einstein equations on the chalk board.
     
  15. Neverfly Banned Banned

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    You have so much animosity for skeptics- yet you are always projecting that animosity on to them.
    Whether or not skeptics are hostile to you- you have the power to control yourself, your behavior and your attitudes. You might consider that and focus your energy on finding evidence to your claims instead of teasing skeptics.

    Should you try to come and haunt me, I'll probably just engage you in ghostly debate until your ectoplasm explodes.
     
  16. Mazulu Banned Banned

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    lol! If I can't make you scream or question your sanity, I'll probably just move on into the light.

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  17. Fraggle Rocker Staff Member

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    Well, that's true in most cases, but in all cases?

    It takes a minimum of approximately 1/100 of a second for enough synapses to fire to comprise a "thought" or "experience." So sure, if you die by drowning, carbon monoxide poisoning, etc., the O2 level in your brain will drop below the minimum level to sustain consciousness and you'll lose your awareness of the experience a couple of minutes before irreversible degradation of the synapses (or "death") occurs.

    (In water of exactly the right temperature, babies occasionally exhibit the mammalian diving reflex. The body shuts down blood flow to everything but the brain and a few other delicate organs. This makes the oxygen in the blood last much longer, and a few survive as long as ten minutes underwater with literally no damage. Mammals that routinely dive in deep water retain this ability into adulthood.)

    But how about dying from head trauma? A bullet travels faster than the speed of sound, so once it enters your skull and begins ricocheting back and forth, it will have made several complete traversals of your brain during 1/100 of a second. In half of that time it will have destroyed more than enough tissue to cease all brain functioning. That's about as close to "experiencing" death as you can get, and you still won't feel the actual physical pain.

    Or you could dive off of a 40-story building and land head-first. You'll be traveling at 109mph/160fps when you hit the ground. The impact will shatter your skull and your torso will then crush it into a pancake a couple of inches thick--all in 1/100 of a second. Again, you won't feel the actual physical pain, and you won't even be able to see the last couple of inches of the trajectory just before the pavement contacts your head.

    So I'm not sure what it would mean to "experience death." It's hard to consctruct a scenario in which you retain the ability to experience anything right up to the exact microsecond at which you change from being alive to being dead. In the most violent scenarios you don't actually "lose consciousness" so much as running 1/100 of a second behind real-time. So when death occurs you're still experiencing the moment of life just before it.

    In peaceful scenarios in a hospital room, you lose consciousness long before your body craps out.
     
  18. Mazulu Banned Banned

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    No it's not. It's called a Near Death Experience. It happens all the time, all over the world. It's well documented in cardiac arrest patients. Patients report floating above their body during surgery, then they go off to the afterlife, then they come back (sometimes involuntarily). We're discussing it in the other thread.
    http://www.sciforums.com/showthread...-real-says-neurosurgeon&p=2996599#post2996599
    Yeah, yeah, I know you want something published in a reputable journal. I'll look around.
     
  19. Saturnine Pariah Hell is other people Valued Senior Member

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    I am an Aspie but I do have very misanthropic views. However I don't enjoy seeing everyone in pain or suffering nor would I want everyone to die..I guess I would just prefer the people/institutions that I despise to simply dissipate out of existence not even die but just fade out of this world and out of my life.
    Individual humans I have no real problems with..However once we get into group psychology, social stratification, economics, race, ethnicity, and the big cancer that is religion all these all end up dividing us and creating double standards, unwritten rules and social norms that I just don’t comprehend or find completely irrational. Neurotypicals are rather confusing.
     
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  21. seagypsy Banned Banned

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    You sound like someone I know personally. It's almost creepy how much you sound like the person I have in mind. In any case, I am glad you separate the Aspie from the misanthropist. Although it makes sense why many aspies (or anyone who is different) would become misanthropists but it is not a rule. I have met people who assume all aspies have this disposition but they do not. My son is an aspie, though just barely, and he has a much more optimistic view of society. It could be because he is young and still is oblivious to when people are mocking him but I can't be sure.
     
  22. Saturnine Pariah Hell is other people Valued Senior Member

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    Ignorance is bliss until a person or society shatters your innocent preconceptions of your world view. For some they see or try to see good in all people. For me I can only see or attempt to see their hidden motives and negative quirks of their personalities without revealing too much of my own. Do genuinely nice, good people exist…yes…but from my experience they are chance encounters in a sea of bullshit. I simply hope your son continues to live with that innocence and experiences less prejudice and discrimination than other Aspies have encountered in the past. Regards - SP
     
  23. youreyes amorphous ocean Valued Senior Member

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    what about those of us who choose not to die?
     

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