What's the point of reincarnation?

Discussion in 'Eastern Philosophy' started by Magical Realist, Feb 24, 2014.

  1. kmguru Staff Member

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    We have a conscious Mind and an Unconscious Mind. Assume that the Physical form is the driver to manage the body. The Unconscious Mind is the passenger riding the car....and picks up everything that the driver does. The UM is subtle form perhaps a kind of energy runs from a different dimension out of our 3-D space but linked to our dimension. The Universe has multiple dimensions..some of it can not be reached by us...when you die, the Unconscious mind takes off with the detail knowledge of the driver hundred percent...

    The reason our physical body dies is because, in 15 Billion years, the Universe has not set up protein molecules to live many many years. That is why you have an energy (?) body that takes the information and goes to the next physical form....at your will...

    You can verify this starting with ANY kid that is below 10 years and focusing his/her to understand and manage the UM....then you will know the details yourselves...
     
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  3. Read-Only Valued Senior Member

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    Yep, I'm a research guy - and I know full well that "religion" has nothing in any real way to do with this silly superstition. And your prediction about the fighting, etc. over this issue is totally bonkers. No such thing will ever happen.
     
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  5. kmguru Staff Member

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    If you say so...from the flat earth society...Good Luck to the rest of your life...
     
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  7. Read-Only Valued Senior Member

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    Nope, nothing to do with the Flat Earth Society. The rest of my life (short as it may be since I'm 71 now) will be just fine. I just feel sorry for anyone who believes the sheer nonsense you've posted here...
     
  8. kmguru Staff Member

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    Do not feel sorry...the world is a big place...room for everyone...including you...

    EDIT:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MJBmWvuTrVY&feature=em-share_video_user

    and...

    http://intelligencesquaredus.org/debates/upcoming-debates/item/1020-death-is-not-final&tab=4
     
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  9. kmguru Staff Member

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    Evolution
     
  11. river

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    The evolution of the Human Spirit
     
  12. kmguru Staff Member

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    Not really...We were at high up once upon a time...then we went down...but deep down, we know better...(that means, we need knowledge not time...)

    Still, we have to go higher up like next five Billion years....(My understanding is that Lord Krishna came from five billion years of spirit development from the origin of his creation...that is amazing...)

    The point is, we have been trying to get up for the last 12,000 years (according to Indian system when Krishna was here at Dwaraka)...and tried to this day...still going down in our spiritual path of evolution (think about all the wars among our people)...

    So, someone decided we get some super consultants here to do the stuff and that or they will be here in 500 years, that means we would be basically stay even or may go down a little with more wars next several times....

    May be that is why we need reincarnation....to bring it back up in a better spiritual fashion and past social knowledge to bring in....just some thoughts...

    Also reincarnation does is people go through several topics of knowledge such as sociology, medicine, engineering, agriculture etc...that provides a value to make the correct decision path forward...(from a Barbarian to be more Aryans....that was the thinking...)
     
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  13. madethesame Banned Banned

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    with each reincarnation creature or a object precises its orgasm vibrations with the universe. this is difficult, subjective and relative.
    hence reincarnations. the form of expression and personality is changed. The orgasm level is maintained. people with aries and saturn conjuctions are milder and deep. their birth is result of karma.
     
  14. Waiter_2001 Registered Senior Member

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    The animals serve as a warning to others, not that anyone takes any notice. Most people will cook and eat animals after paying the wages of whoever has killed the creature (this is inherent in the cost of the meat.) For some time i refused animal products if it was cruel to the animal (i was a vegetarian,) in exchange for leniency. I did not want to be a worm or get eaten by a "giant" spider (to a small creature a spider would appear giant.) Animals kill and eat each other giving them the energy to do such a thing again. However it seems that some animals are already vegetarian: cows and horses simply eat grass. But i did state it was for leniency, not excemption. I suppose both swat flies with their tails! But if the Earth is void of humans and inhabited by only animals and flora it matters little. Im going to try vegetarianism again but its so intermitant with me that the best i can hope for is to be green when i pass. People who should know better do not seem interested in anything other than feeding me dead people. Especially a girl called sandwhiches (who is a fly.) Buzzin! Some people have nothing going for themselves, they simply put others down. Anyways like i said, im good to animals in exchange for leniency. What i find amazing is animals are there as a punishment but people love them! We have the r.s.p.c.a and some animals get treated better than some people! Astounding!
     
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  15. kmguru Staff Member

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    I think, we came from the animals...but it is true that sometimes "animals are there as a punishment". So it is a complicated matter.

    I do not have a problem being non-vegetarian...provided the issues are handles in a better way...i.e. non violence in the system of things. Because even a human becomes an animal as punishment dos not change the entities spirit situation when that entity passed ....again it a a complicated matter...just, let us not being violent. I was told that severe punishment in Karma can be a Snake...(or even a Frog...like perhaps Hitler)....and so it is...
     
  16. Waiter_2001 Registered Senior Member

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    Well a snake was my first choice (because i thought they all knew the time) but i think my girlfriend would prefer us to be feline (cats.) In the bible Moses threw down his staff to pharoah and it turned into a snake. Perhaps im mistsken, perhaps there is an animal faster than a snake? Anyway you shouldnt call them snakes, its rude and disrespectful. Theyre serpents! It was a serpent that caused the fall of man (adam and eve) and i do believe serpents tempt us because despite their powers, theyre still serpents, and they know it!
     
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    It is very interesting for that fact that in the beginning there were Adam and Eve and Serpent....(besides Apple!)

    I was told that even a senior life (like a few Billion Years) was made in to a snake as a punishment. That is amazing.....
     
  18. Waiter_2001 Registered Senior Member

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    The serpent was someone from AFTER Adam and Eve. There are many people to choose from.
     
  19. kmguru Staff Member

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    Where does it say "after"? Thank you...
     
  20. wellwisher Banned Banned

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    The serpent lives in the tree of knowledge of good and evil. Knowledge of good and is evil is connected to morality and law. Law break down behavior into what is good and what is unacceptable or evil. The symbolism of Adam and Eve shows that women tend to favor law more than do men.

    For example, if you look at crime, men are more likely not to choose to obey the law. They prefer free style over the yoke of structure. Women are more obedient to law and have lower crime rates since it is easier for women to maintain the perfection of structure; law. Adam was not attracted to that tree like Eve was.

    Women mature earlier in terms of following the basic rules of civilized culture. The boys will tend to break the rules and remain unstructured, longer, away from the social rules and taboos of right and wrong. The symbol of Eve eating first is based on timeless observation of male and female nature. The pioneer male has to break the yoke of all the laws of this contemporaries to find the new way. Females pioneer will stay closer to base rules.

    If you look at modern feminism, the original complaint was men discriminated. Even if this was true, there was no legal system of enforced laws. This was done in an open style. For example, there were no laws within corporate america, supported by police and judges, that create a glass ceiling. It was done without formal law connected to jails, lawyers and judges. Some women had the ability to play in this free style.

    The females were the ones that wanted the government to create formal laws, that had police, lawyers and judges, to force behavior that favored one group, beyond loose convention; Eve eats first. The men went along with these demands, or Adam eats of the apple, with the result micromanaging laws.

    Satan is symbolically connected to women, since this urge to make law creates evil. Lws like prohibitions always create the evil of black market crime. As another example, quota laws (apples) for Eve creates victims/criminals in the sense even males who never did anything as individuals are discriminated by the law, in favor of some women who never had to suffer anything. These receive stolen goods. Law is not pure; Satan effect.

    The free style of men in the workforce gave everyone a remote chance since the system was looser and not overseen by jail and judges. Law takes away even the remote chance due to police, jails, lawyers and judges; justice is blind or by the book.

    The democratic party in America is more feminized. It is not coincidential that it is also the party that likes to make the most laws and regulations. These two Eves are connected. Republican is more masculine and believe in self reliance and smaller government. This means less law and more free style.

    This masculine open style allows the tree of life (natural ingenuity for change). The bible has this tree placed outside the box of law (tree of life is taken away after law appears). By the book does not like change or perturbations. It throws that in jail or tries to destroy it, due to the symbolism of Satan and law.

    The continued whine about the glass ceiling is due to men learning to adapt in the jail of law and finding new ways around the box. The females want more law to place the men in a box to make it easier. This will create evil due to the subjectivity of law that attempts to create a one size fits all in a many size world.
     
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  21. kmguru Staff Member

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    Nicely said. I have one question set...What is our purpose in the Universe? How do we improve Knowledge? and what is good and what is bad?

    The point I am going for it is what do we do for the next million years (assuming our spiritual life lasts a long time) ? and how Good verses evil manages that...And hence Male verses female activities and how that supports the growth....

    The idea is...if you stay with man's base laws, can you grow? Need to look at it as to how our growth gets developed...It is like Communism and Capitalism...In communism, no one works (at least that is what happened)...Then China changes the rules...

    Just some thought and how that is managed by Men and Women....then we can talk about Republicans and Democrats (I started from Republican and now Independent...we can talk about that later)

    As to glass ceiling....I have some good experience...we can talk about that later...Thank you...you are in to some good stuff....
     
  22. wellwisher Banned Banned

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    The problem with law, is law is not created for the righteous person. It is created for the criminal. By your tone, I can tell you do not need a law that says not to kill. This restraint is already in your nature, You have no need for such a law. What law does is treat everyone, including the innocent, like we are criminals (one size fits all), since we all are under the law. Laws is created for criminals and since you are under the law, you are a potential criminal.

    The dynamics that results is like calling a smart child stupid, again and again. It becomes harder to remain smart, since the constant programming has an impact that lead to some stupidity. Law works the same way in that law by assuming all are criminals ; all have to be under the law, will create criminal behavior and intent.

    You need to remove law or minimize law to reduce violations. Sin is not imputed when there is no law. When Prohibiton was repealed the number of black market murderers went down. Another way is to add more laws to criminals and less to honest people.
     
  23. kmguru Staff Member

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    Again nicely said. Forgetting about the Universal Life etc...I found a video in you tube...please watch it and then we can talk.



    I got some data...it is very difficult to understand at this human level...I am trying and hopefully in next two years I will have a clearer understanding on my Divine Soul....as the connections are bad wi-fi....now.

    What I was trying to do is that we as a population need to understand that a divine soul can come back to planet Earth (or anywhere compatible) either White or Chinese as a person (or others). That means, when you see a human in a different skin tone, you should not think that person is different and hence work along OK. That part people should talk about it and solve certain social issues now. The rabbi did not discuss but if you ask him he will say correctly.

    Another part is that if we are brother (and sisters) of a large creation, we all should work together.....including people who rose from fish background as we rose from chimpanzee background long ago...(but things have been changes since then)....and they are here too....as humans doing great stuff....in other words, let us all do good.

    Another part is e last two interstellar wars with one group who did not believe in Souls. Hence the war and we are heading that way now - meaning we will be a pariah among various civilizations....that needs to stop.

    When you watch the Rabbi and that I was putting out similar stuff in Sciforums...people get mad....so, I am not sure how to approach it....your choice...talk to me after the Rabbi stuff....

    Because you write very well with good stuff...we can talk a lot unless sciforums kicks you out....
     
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