Discussion in 'History' started by Xerxes, Jan 28, 2004.
why is it not possible? He just wants your opinion.
Ancient History , B.C.E
Okay, I'd like a crack at this one. Stealing shamelessly from Bronowski's Ascent of Man, a series of natural hybridisations and a genetic mutation that transformed a wild strain of wheat with 14 chromosomes, through one with 28 chromosomes to one with 42 chromosomes, and a final genetic mutation that was required to make the heavier version fertile. Because the heavier seeds could not get blown in the wind, it required the intervention of man to sow and to harvest them for them to survive. These events coincided with man's arrival at a point when he had the intelligence and inclination to use this new strain of wheat to help him give up his erstwhile nomadic existence and to settle, thus leadng to the birth of civilisation. It was these events that were the foundation of the agricultural revolution and that triggered the development that has brought us to the modern world.
Coming down from the trees and walking upright
In theory it would be the perfect form of government but in reality...not so much. There is always the human factor that is forgotten
Personally watched that documentary...now if alcohol helped to found civilization then why in the documentary didn't they discuss what type of alcohol were drank in the other ancient civilizations beyond Egypt and Mesopotamia? Was it beer or some other beveragethat founded the Chinese Dynasties in addition what about the Maya, Olmecs, and Aztecs, where they all founded on alcohol? The scientist were assuming( based on their observations that all civilizations were founded because of the discovery of alcohol) which is farfetched in my eyes
A higher import to significance should be given those events which are not just naturally generated, or to be a natural expected outcome. Grunting hominids can find significance in surviving poisonous plants, drinking intoxicating fermented rot-waters, and other sure-occurring events. What seems to make a more poignant significance, is an event that leads to a better hominid. Survival is a significance.
Nuclear destruction is a game changer of significance. Or can this too be seen as a normal significance of human foregone inventive conclusion?
Or what of the significance of surviving the hominid "sapient", to see from the eyes of the next hominid in the lineage...say for example a hominid "sentient2".
In that respect, I must conclude with ElectricFetus.
The following had important consequences.Reformation
30 Years War
French RevolutionI consider the Spartans at Thermopylae, the defeat of the Spanish Armada, & the defeat of the arabs by Charles Martel (The Hammer) to be far more significant.If the Persians had won that war, the most of Greek influence on Europe would have been lost. Their contribution to science, mathematics, art, literature, et cetera was significant.
The history books I read indicated that the Spartan effort was significant because it allowed the Greeks time to mobilize a national Army. They were independent city states at the time & had never had a national army. Circa 10-20 years ago, I read an article which suggested that the Spartans had a significant effect on Persian morale. This article suggested that the Persian soldiers were terrified at the thought of facing a Greek army which included 2000 plus Spartans after seeing/experiencing what 300 of them had done at Thermopylae.
Had the Spanish Armada not been defeated (with some help from the weather), Spain, rather than England & France would have been likely to control North America as well as South America.
The Arabs (Moors?) who already controlled Spain, attempted to conquer the rest of Europe in 732. Charles Martel had the only army capable of defeating them. Note that Spain was under Islamic control for circa 500 more years. If they had defeated Martel at the battle south of tours, France, they might had been in control of much of Europe for circa 500 years.
BTW: Martel (Charlemagne’s grandfather) not only defeated the Moors, he terrified them. When he won a battle, he did not accept surrender. He pursued the Moors as they retreated to Spain, killing many of the survivors of the initial battle.
I have always thought the "Handle" is the most important invention. Which is basically hand held tools and objects.
The concept of selecting plants and animal for their genetic potential long before the concept of DNA was known.
All vegetables are significantly different from their wild varieties.
none is more significant than the reading and learning, the knowledge of our Ancient History , none ( back to Sumer )
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