Discussion in 'General Philosophy' started by Mr. Hamtastic, Apr 28, 2009.
so a bugs knows it will die if it mates?
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But regarding larger animals..
It is a fact that animals can become depressed. They can then stop trying to survive. I would call that suicide as they don't really have the means to commit active suicide.
Do you know.. ? I don't.
It's the way they evolved.
throw themselves in front of a predator.
yes, I do know that bugs about bugs.
Does not trying to escape count ?
Uh.. what ?
yes, what example do you have of that?
Of course they don't know that they're going to die, that would imply they are self aware. The tiny ganglion that serves as a brain in an insect could never support that level of mental activity.
I don't know about that. It depends on your definition of 'knowing'.
yes, they get depressed. They get sad. But I don't think they knowingly kill themselves. I don't think they knowingly do something so that they purposely die. Its just a result.
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I don't know that. Do you ?
How do insects know what to eat ?
yes, its why I said it.
You said you didn't think that, which is not the same thing as knowing the opposite.
But ok, HOW do you know it ? Evidence ?
How do I know animals don't purposely kill themselves? How do I know animals don't commit suicide. Well, because one has never done it.
As soon as a suicide note is found, I will reverse my position. I will not accept a dog suicide note if there is a cat living in the house though.
So you're just assuming based on nothing. Ok..
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