What is your IQ?

Discussion in 'Human Science' started by EndLightEnd, Jul 26, 2008.

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What is your IQ? (if you know it)

  1. Below 100

    1 vote(s)
    3.0%
  2. 100-109

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  3. 110-119

    4 vote(s)
    12.1%
  4. 120-129

    3 vote(s)
    9.1%
  5. 130-139

    12 vote(s)
    36.4%
  6. 140+

    10 vote(s)
    30.3%
  7. I dont know

    3 vote(s)
    9.1%
  1. Vkothii Banned Banned

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    The oh so sad and sorry truth is, people with high intelligence are "unusual" people.

    Unless they are treated unusually, have unusual amounts of attention as children say, they can and often do end up not fitting in the slot society wants them to be in.
    They don't resonate; it pays to keep your head down out there in the trenches, so you do better in an academic situation if you're bright, but not so bright that no-one can look in your direction. You ideally should be good enough to get in the front row, but not have such a big head that others complain about their view.
     
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  3. SoLiDUS OMGWTFBBQ Registered Senior Member

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    Partially true.

    If I recall correctly, the average increase was close to 5 points for those who trained for subtests. In case you're not aware, that's not a very impressive difference...
     
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  5. SoLiDUS OMGWTFBBQ Registered Senior Member

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    FAIL.

    Raw potential and actualized potential are two different creatures. There are plenty of people with gifted and genius level IQs sitting around and wasting away while more productive, intellectually average people make every effort to actualize whatever they have.

    Those tests will measure your potential, but it's up to you to make something of yourself. It's basically an indicator of what you should be capable of accomplishing, so don't bash them for something they were never designed to do, which you seem to believe is giving you a glimpse into the future.

    Anyway, I'm not here to educate anyone on Psychometrics, so I'll just answer the damn thread question and leave... 99th percentile.
     
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  7. Kadark Banned Banned

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    "FAIL"? That's getting really old, pal.

    Essentially, you're arguing that IQ tests measure an individual's potential. Here is something interesting I read countering that claim:

    According to most current definitions — although they are not conclusive — intelligence is made up of the skills of logical reasoning, problem solving, critical thinking, and adaptation. This scenario seems reasonable, says Professor Linda S. Siegel at the University of British Columbia, until one examines the content of IQ tests. The definition of IQ, as is operationalized in all IQ tests, includes virtually no skills that can be identified in terms of the definitions of intelligence. To support her statement, Siegel gives a detailed analysis of the subtests of the Wechsler Intelligence Scale for Children-Revised (WISC-R). This IQ test is composed of Verbal and Performance sections. In each subtest of the Verbal scale, performance is in varying degrees dependent on specific knowledge, vocabulary, expressive language and memory skills, while in the Performance scale, visual-spatial abilities, fine motor coordination, perceptual skills, and in some subtests speed, are essential for scoring. Siegel also points out that IQ tests measure, for the most part, what a person has learned, not what he or she is capable of doing in the future (his potential).

    http://iq-test.learninginfo.org/iq02.htm

    Note: If you're trying to get your point across, Solidus, it's probably a good idea to avoid opening your posts with "FAIL".

    Just a thought.

    Kadark the Combatant
     
  8. Vkothii Banned Banned

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    Ahem; I got told that only about 3% of a population (I presume this means "in a developed country") ever get more than a high-school education.
    Of that 3%, only about 5% get a further degree, and only about 50-60% finish their first.

    So at least 1.5% get a degree or tertiary level, and 5% of those get another degree or level; or ~ 0.15% of the population. But people with an average or above average I.Q. can get doctorates.

    The academic path is only one of the roads, but it's "better" than becoming a sociopath, we like to think.
     
    Last edited: Jul 27, 2008
  9. SoLiDUS OMGWTFBBQ Registered Senior Member

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    No, really... FAIL.

    I don't have the time or the energy to expound. Suffice it to say, you're either genuinely ignorant of the field (and I mean this as respectfully as I can) or cherry-picking your articles to support your flawed perception of what intelligence testing is.

    If you can follow written or verbal instructions, there are several culture and knowledge free tests available to test any particular cognitive faculty, many of which are well correlated with what's now know as the general intelligence factor. That's all you're getting from me: research the rest on your own if you're truly interested.

    And yes, I know I'm condescending and arrogant. Deal with it.
     
  10. Kadark Banned Banned

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    "FAIL"? Again? Man, you're such a big faggot.

    Anyway ...

    If you can't elaborate on your claims of others' "failures", then you probably shouldn't be saying anything at all.

    I have spoken.

    Kadark the Sublime
     
  11. OilIsMastery Banned Banned

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    Stalin comes to Mr. Putin in a dream and says, "Vladimir, I have two bits of advice for you: kill your opponents, and paint the Kremlin blue."

    Mr. Putin ponders a moment, then asks, "Why blue?"
     
  12. SoLiDUS OMGWTFBBQ Registered Senior Member

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    Yeah, ok.

    I have approximately two years of psychometric experience working with people in the field; do you think I'm actually going to sit here and explain over 100 years of science and testing devices to someone on a forum? I can just say "Ravens" and voila, I've made my point. What I won't do is argue with a person who appears to have preconceptions on the subject and cherrypicks articles and supporting "evidence" to validate his own bias.

    This isn't the first time I see you spouting nonsense in IQ and Psychometrics related threads. Someone will eventually find the patience to set you straight, but it certainly won't be me: there's nothing to gain from educating you on the matter, so why would I expend energy doing that? I'll just leave you in ignorance.
     
  13. Vkothii Banned Banned

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    Psychometrics. That's a word that (were I asked) I'd say is a conjunction of the idea of "mind", as in psyche, and metric, as in measure.

    However, the psyche is also emotional, not only intellectual. It simply can't be just one thing, that is extremely improbable.

    The idea that we can "isolate" and "measure" something which is an integral part of something else is interesting, as it appears to be a measure made by the same thing that we think we're measuring - the intellect. So my question is then: can this be done, is the presumption that the intellect does stick up from the surface somehow, if we ask nicely it will stand still and be measured?
     
  14. Reiku Banned Banned

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    In fact, careful recent studies predict that brain size, or cranial size actually might have something to do with be intelligence development. This development can be traced to an 'intelligence gene.' Those who do not have the normal gene, including the second evolutionary gene step (the advanced gene), are born with extremely small heads called 'microcephilacs'; that is equivalent to the chimp family, and is considered as a throwback in evolution, a disease as sorts. Photographs today prove that Einstien’s head was in fact disproportionate to his body!

    Coincidental or not, was the problem that Einstein had a delay in his language [which is related to ADD]. I can relate to Albert on this level, because i too was born with semantic pragmatic disorder, which is related to the autistic spectrum; but some of these medical terms sound all too formal...

    I have always wondered if this might have been a case of his overlarge brain capacity - perhaps his brain, as large as it was for his age might have had certain functions slowed down by his 'mental production', with the minimal amount of brain power needed; but as time progressed, he worked his way out of this arena and he began to excel in his intelligence. Now, i have no medical interests - but you can imagine i was delightfully surprised to hear from a Dr. Neuroscientist Stephen Pinker who believes that his speech delay was caused by a rapid prenatal development in his brain that might have 'robbed' other functions and capabilities of the brain, such as speech development.

    He began to talk at the age of nine; despite this, he was the top pupil at his high school. In later years, his success to say the least made some professors envious - some extremely repulsed by his intelligence even right into the 1920's and 30's!

    The size of his cranium is a bit more than just a coincidence when compared to his intelligence. It undoubtedly had something to do with his mathematical and imaginary insights. His intelligence and contributions will, and have left the world in awe, maybe even leaving us slightly worried and annoyed about Einstien’s universe - and something about this world is simultaneously comforting and mystical.

    Einstein’s abrupt death was by internal bleeding caused by a rupture of an aortic aneurism; the autopsy was performed by Dr. Thomas Stoltz Harvey, who decided to remove and even preserve his brain, even though at first glance, the brain looked perfectly normal - then not long ago the pickled brain of Albert Einstein was finally taken out of its container.

    After 52 years, dissecting the brain, we could see that Einstein had an unusual amount of extra white matter. Further investigation in 1999 at McMaster’s University showed that the parietal operculum region was missing... and to compensate this missing matter his 'inferior parietal lobe' was 15% times wider. The inferior parietal region is in fact responsible for mathematical reasoning, visuospatial cognition and imagery of movement - all pivotal traits in quantum physics. His brain also contained a whopping 73% more 'glial cells' than the average brain.
     
  15. DeepThought Banned Banned

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    Wow... twenty eight respondents and still no one's average.

    Many posters appear to have I.Q.'s greater than Einstein or Newton.

    Could one of these geniuses post some of there remarkable achievements?

    Alternatively, could we make such polls public in future?
     
  16. Reiku Banned Banned

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    Well, mine was taken a few years back in a psychology department, and it was 119.
     
  17. SoLiDUS OMGWTFBBQ Registered Senior Member

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    There are several reasons for the scores being what they are...

    First off, there's no standard deviation attached to the poll: this means we don't know if someone posting an IQ score of 140 stands in the 99.6th, 99.4th or 95th percentile, to use only the popular deviations.

    Second, these threads attract a certain kind of person, so it may simply be the case that only people of superior intelligence visit topics like this and post their supposed score. Is it proctored? Who the hell knows.

    Additionally, the typical internet surfer is presumed to be of above-average intelligence, so if we combine that with the type of person interested in a forum like this, you would expect to find scores like the ones posted so far.

    If I had made the poll, it would've been something like

    Below
    50th - 59th percentile (Average)
    60th - 69th percentile (...)
    70th - 79th percentile (...)
    80th - 89th percentile (Superior)
    90th - 95th percentile (...)
    96th - 98th percentile (Gifted)
    98th - 99th percentile (...)
    Above
     
  18. Vkothii Banned Banned

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    I'm pretty sure mine lies somewhere either side of 100, or is it 110? Not too sure about the standard dev. there, though. SAT.
     
  19. Enmos Staff Member

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    Really ? It seemed far easier than a regular test to me :shrug:
     
  20. Steve100 O͓͍̯̬̯̙͈̟̥̳̩͒̆̿ͬ̑̀̓̿͋ͬ ̙̳ͅ ̫̪̳͔O Valued Senior Member

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    I have no remarkable achievements.
     
  21. Enmos Staff Member

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    What's yours ?
     
  22. Yorda Registered Senior Member

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    jesus and buddha had a very high IQ. because they were omniscient.
     
  23. Enmos Staff Member

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    Knowledge is not intelligence.
     

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