What is "time"

Discussion in 'Physics & Math' started by Saint, Nov 9, 2014.

  1. Farsight Valued Senior Member

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    Not if the pocket watch is frozen too.


    That's popscience nonsense. Gravitational field energy is positive. See The Foundation of the General Theory of Relativity where Einstein said: "the energy of the gravitational field shall act gravitatively in the same way as any other kind of energy." If two bodies fall towards one another conservation of energy applies. Potential energy is converted into kinetic energy which is typically radiated away. But you don't end up with less energy that you started with.
     
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  3. Beer w/Straw Transcendental Ignorance! Valued Senior Member

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    So like um I could buy a candy-silicone watch

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    made of 100% silicone. - it would be safe in the cold because no breast implants fell victim to the antarctic - and set up an experiment to see if in fact my fish is a time traveler due to a level of freezer burn. Chemical reaction shouldn't occur in true stasis where time has stopped.

    My scientific paper would be a long time coming but garnish me a Nobel Prize for sures! My awesomeness even astounds me sometimes.
     
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  5. danshawen Valued Senior Member

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    I'll nominate you, BWS. So... that's why Einstein was also associated with refrigeration?
     
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  7. Trippy ALEA IACTA EST Staff Member

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    Way to evade the point being made.
     
  8. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    The Prince of Cop outs.

    Well if we look at the records involved with the writers of the article, Professor's Filippenko and Pasachoff, who are recognised physicists /cosmologists both at the coal face deciphering all data received from the many state of the art probes, and compare that with Farsight/Duffield, a down and out minion in the field of cosmology and science in general, it becomes obvious as to who is telling us lies and fairy tales, and who is informing us of possible logical outcomes, based on what we know.
     
  9. danshawen Valued Senior Member

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    Having finished my 30 year physics problem with the help of this group, I can state with confidence one place that time does not exist, but it's asymmetrical.

    Although time continues to pass for observers at rest watching a light pulse pass through a coke bottle endwise, no material 'observer' traveling at c in a vacuum can 'observe' anything, because for them, for all intents and purposes, time stops.

    Obviously, fluctuations and excitations in the quantum fields (e, m, other) continues to work, otherwise such an energy pulse would not propagate. Evidently, this is not the same as the dimension of time, or else the preceding sentence would be so much nonsense. There seems to be (an as yet undefined) dimension in which quantum fields may move that underlies both time and space. I don't think the idea of QFT's 'sigma' field quite captures this.
     
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  10. PhysBang Valued Senior Member

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    You seem to forget in another thread where you were arguing that the gravitational potential was always negative.

    Which is it?

    This is a very interesting reference to a section that I have never paid too much attention to before. It shows exactly how to incorporate the energy of a gravitational field into calculations. I can't wait for Farsight to use it to calculate the rotation curve for a galaxy.
     
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  11. krash661 [MK6] transitioning scifi to reality Valued Senior Member

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    he typed the same on the other site [ physforum ] , just the other day. regarding gravitational field energy being negative.
     
  12. Jason.Marshall Banned Banned

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    Time...a good analogy to think of time is this one, imagine yourself a computer with a specific processing speed that speed could be compared to a specific energy frequency that you vibrate at defining your current position in time as well as space from your reference point of time. So now imagine existence as information that is equal to infinity in order for you to process that information of infinity which would be defined as a specific infinite set the frequency in which you vibrate will determine how long it will take you to process that infinite set of information. That will be how you experience time based on your processing speed.
     
  13. Farsight Valued Senior Member

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    Good stuff. Now apply this to the infinite GR time dilation at the event horizon.

    Any local motion means c is being exceeded, so there can't be any. So quantum fluctuactions can't continue to work.
     
  14. PhysBang Valued Senior Member

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    But this doesn't exist, as many people have pointed out to you many times. There is a singularity at the event horizon because of a mathematical fluke in one system of coordinates; it's not there in any other.

    You are doing the equivalent of saying that because someone is 5' tall, they are also 5 meters tall and also 5 inches tall.
     
  15. Beer w/Straw Transcendental Ignorance! Valued Senior Member

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    Wrong thread...
     
  16. theorist-constant12345 Banned Banned

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    A cite is that the work of someone before me, which is not apart of me to mimic anything so I would very doubt there is a citation for most of what I suggest.
    You will have to excuse me at the moment I have the worse case of Flu, and can hardly think, so in reply I have just scribbled up a quick diagram, x marks the spot.
    Can you not imagine that you are inside an ''explosion'', and the force from the ''blast'' , accelerates any surrounding bodies to the force away from the force isotropic in nature to the force, except with one change in the thought, that you are froze in the ''blast'' and for a yet to be deemed apparent reason the surrounding bodies to you are expanding while you relatively remain ''froze'' in the blast.
    Can you not see all the surrounding bodies slowly vanishing out of your vision has you remain frozen in the blast, then can you not see the development of the planets around you and the forming of mankind, and witness mankind observing the last of the bodies been repelled away who have no idea about what came before them because it is expanded away already. A simple reality that observes the true reality.

    I know most of you think I am mad, and do not know science well, but you are so wrong , I really get it although I may not explain it greatly.
     

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  17. Dywyddyr Penguinaciously duckalicious. Valued Senior Member

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    Plus the fact that you're spouting bollocks.
    I think that would be the main reason why you can't find anything to cite to support your fantasies.

    Nothing new there then.

    Utterly irrelevant.

    Nope.

    No you don't.

    Your "diagram" shows you don't know what you're talking about.
     
  18. theorist-constant12345 Banned Banned

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    I stopped the video 6.55 in, I timed using the clock 5 seconds past by for me, the guy sitting down 5 seconds past, and the guy walking about 5 seconds past in time. I also observed the light, there was also 5 seconds of light in that period of display of bad idea. 6.55 - 7.00
    I also observed that because if you are moving, you are running away from gravity, the dilation i s energy based and not time, ok thx for the link back to it.
     
  19. theorist-constant12345 Banned Banned

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    Also stopped at 19-20 mins, is this really what science thinks? Science has based time on the displacement of energy by gravity displacement , wow.....
     
  20. Dr_Toad It's green! Valued Senior Member

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    When will this poor thing be banned?
     
  21. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    DELUSIONS......We call that delusions!
     
  22. theorist-constant12345 Banned Banned

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    Hello God troll, I noted now several occasions and the only few words you ever seem to use. Do not try to destroy the original opps thread, i am entitled to comment and make opinion the same has yourself.
    Do you want me to follow you around and post ban him all over your posts?
    Leave the comments to my threads please and not on other persons threads.

    I have some news for you, this forum is a Virgin forum, I personally help to fund Mr Branson in his ventures, ban me with no Valid reason and I will remove my funding and tell Mr B in a personal letter why I have removed my funds.
    <Mods you should be laughing if you get it>,

    Time is a question, a question without real concrete answers. Any one can have an opinion.
     
  23. theorist-constant12345 Banned Banned

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    Yes Paddy I know you do, ever considered chilling out and not being so stressed? Ever even tried to understand? Are you truly objective to yourself?

    I learnt an awful lot of science, my other forum taught me quite a bit of maths. My mind , your science, goes a long way. I have told you before, it is your science from your science from your observations, You might be reading what you have read, but you certainly are not hearing what science and all before us where telling us.
    An object on the ground, lets say a cube with a mass of 100g, the constant of force on that cube is always 98.1n, you raise the object you are adding energy to that object, every action has an opposite reaction equal and opposite to that action, you raise an object, your mass takes on the objects mass, opposing gravity, releasing the Fn of 98.1n to a decrease in energy loss to the constant. That is gravity and nothing to do with time, please explain the big importance of GPS that suppose to prove time dilation?
    I personally think the world is not based on time, but based on energy dilations.

    P.s it might be 0.981n , not done this one for a while

    P.s yes it is the later fiqure
     
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