what is the "underlying principle"? Is there an underlying principle?

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  1. Bishadi Banned Banned

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    gotta love a good question....


    what is the "underlying principle"? Is there an underlying principle? An actual meaning?


    this whole concept and inquiry can be found within the universe of mankinds descriptions (the knowledge recorded and conveyed thru time (words))

    The idea that philosophy, sciences and religions are trying to answer that is the truth of what knowledge is for.

    It seems that no matter how this principle is defined it must marry up with practical experience.

    I prefer using the concept of 'life' to show the rules that seem apparent in mother nature. (starting with instinct)

    Then to observe life and what life is and does within the universe (earth), it seems the base principle is 'to continue'.

    almost like a purpose, an intent, a law of nature...... (any other words can be used, between them the idea is to define what instinct is 'doing' underlying principle"?)

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    would that mean, the 'purpose' of life must be a principle that could be definable within the rules of mass and energy?

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    could the underlying principle of mankind, (life) and nature itself be; "to continue" .........'to live'?
     
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  3. Dywyddyr Penguinaciously duckalicious. Valued Senior Member

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    And only one of those can provide the actual answer.

    "Life" is not the universe.

    No, the universe could still exist without life.

    You're conflating "life" with "universe". They're NOT the same.
    Life is not required for the universe to exist, but the universe is (very probably) required for life to exist.

    No it wouldn't.
    You're assuming there is a "purpose"?

    No. Mankind is not the universe.
    Mankind is not life.
    Mankind is not nature.

    How does this thread differ from this one?
     
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  5. Bishadi Banned Banned

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    this am i had awaken with the exact words 'underlying principle' on my mind before i even knew what day it was.


    then to come here a few later and see them used by one of the fools who don't read, was practically funny.


    i opened this thread speaking on the lines of the human experience

    and of course the post above is ranting about the universe because i used the item for this thread

    when common sense, shares not only is the whole thread on the human aspect and life itself, but to comprehend the ideology behind it opens up a window, of the philosophical aspect combining with the natural and scientific perspective. (instinct/purpose/intent; to continue)



    i asked questions and interesting in seeing if any philosophical minds see the bridge?



    is there a 'could be'?

    does it offer and analogy to observe other disciplines?


    if not: then what is your opinion of the 'underlying principle'?

    Is there ONE, should there be one;

    ideas?
     
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  7. Dywyddyr Penguinaciously duckalicious. Valued Senior Member

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    Could you put that into English please?

    Another stupid assumption.

    No, you made it so nebulous as to refer to nothing.

    Maybe if you'd been specific...

    You talk constantly about "common sense" but show so little.
    Instinct is not purpose is not intent.

     
  8. glaucon tending tangentially Registered Senior Member

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    As always.
    And of course, when pressed on this issue, there is no reply.


    An excellent question.

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    Bishadi, you have 24 hours to explain in clear detail how this thread is significantly different.
    Failure to comply will result in closure of this thread.

     
  9. swarm Registered Senior Member

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    There isn't any. No. None except what you make.
     
  10. Bishadi Banned Banned

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    shut up glac


    you follow that idiot around cleaning up anything he don't like

    i could care less what your MOD HAT has to say, when it comes to your opinion!


    either you can read for yourself, or comprehend little
     
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  11. Dywyddyr Penguinaciously duckalicious. Valued Senior Member

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    So all you have is yet more insults?

    Still doesn't explain how this thread is any different from the linked one.
     
  12. Bishadi Banned Banned

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    no magic wand to shut you up with.

    ie... have no problem with your questions; it is you integrity that is shot!

    you linked it because you feel it is talking about the universe.

    the universe is not what the question is focused on.

    you rant on the universe having no purpose i could care less

    i had the idea when i woke up................. about the human perspective and them exact words were what was on my mind.

    (that was explained above)

    now you (the forum troll from no man's land) and glauc may be bed buddies, because you insult everyone and not a thing anyone can say or do to stop you..............

    my opinion; you afucking troll and beginning to think you one of the other mods with a mask on your face (avatar) acting as the "bad guy" of the forum.

    well guess what, if that is what this site is about, i can only say thanks, because i had a blast addressing what you may think is rational and logical but i pounded into tons more material

    ever notice i contest with pubs and science (i am actually digging, each and every day)

    when all you ever do is rant


    the question is valid, the thread is valid

    you and glauc are fools (i say that because i would not be the only one learning at such a pace, and everyone could be seeing far more if you just knew how to articulate with the esoteric mind of someone comprehending far more information than the lot of ya combined)

    ie... but i still learn everyday


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  13. Dywyddyr Penguinaciously duckalicious. Valued Senior Member

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    Wrong again.

    I linked it because the question was raised in the universe thread and you have given NO indication as to any other subject.
    In fact:
    straight from your OP.

    Really?
    So you blame US for YOUR lack of comprehensibility and incoherency?
    Interesting.

    Then why didn't you make it clear?
    The "human perspective" of what?

    No it wasn't.

    Two insults.

    Really?
    Show me where I've used an insult.
    Especially show me where I've insulted everyone.
    Or is this yet another Bishadi fabricated "fact"? One more lie.

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    Wrong again.
    And I don't wear a mask (any more than any other poster - we're all "masked" to some extent).

    You pounded nothing. As usual.

    Wrong again: no "pubs", no science in this thread from you.

    No, neither is.

    More lies.
     
  14. glaucon tending tangentially Registered Senior Member

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    Mod Hat:
    Bishadi:

    Again you prove yourself incapable of behaving in an intelligent manner.
    Enjoy your ban.

     
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