What is the purpose of 'homosexuality' ?

Discussion in 'Human Science' started by madethesame, Dec 26, 2014.

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  1. Waiter_2001 Registered Senior Member

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    Surely homosexuality will become extinct? Howevet im not prejudiced towards anyone (race, sexuality, gender or anything else.) I believe its just love.
     
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  3. wellwisher Banned Banned

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    The natural purpose, behind dividing life into male and female, was to increase genetic diversity, by dividing the DNA into two sources. This is the natural foundation of human sexuality. Behaviors like masturbation/pornography, incest, bestiality, homosexuality, sex with inanimate objects (most of which are done by animals) fall short of this natural foundation. Yet each can become compulsive and habitual like a pseudo-instinct.

    Humans are unique, in that we have will power and choice and can copy and choose behavior apart from natural instinct. For example, we can eat beyond the needs of the body. Very few natural animals get obese, unless they team up with humans. If you get humans involved, they can make natural animals obese, by willfully changing the parameters of natural.

    Sex is very pleasurable, all on its own, and like any addictive drug or activity, all the sexual behavior above, which lie outside the natural foundation of sex, can still cause the release of brain chemicals for reward/compulsion. The alcoholic use a modified instinct of drinking, to create a drive as strong as a genuine thirst. It forms through repetition and brain chemical rewards. It lacks any natural foundation because it is a product of willpower and choice, that can eventually lead to a lack of will and a lack of choice. This fools people into thinking this is natural.

    I don't have any problem with people making artificial choices that do not adversely impact others. But is it important that the little minds of mush (children) not be sold misinformation that artificial is natural, thereby encouraging unnatural choices that lead to addictions and obsessions, until mistaken for instinct.

    For example, say we convinced everyone, that getting drunk was natural, since this has been around since ancient times and some animals eat fermented fruit and get drunk. If we get the little minds of mush, to buy into this propaganda of science, they will experiment and some will drink until an addiction appears. We can call that an instinct. Even if we don't socially scam the little minds, some will copy the adults and/or experiment on their own and get addicted. These will be used as examples of how it is natural. But all are in the air lacking a natural foundation.
     
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  5. Yazata Valued Senior Member

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    I don't think that you understand what I meant. I was questioning whether teleological language is appropriate in evolutionary theory. In other words, whether it's right to imagine evolution proceeding so as to realize pre-existing purposes. I was pointing out an issue from the philosophy of biology.

    It's probably also a mistake to imagine evolution happening on the level of single individuals. It happens in populations in which gene frequencies are changing. That means that one probably shouldn't think of individuals who don't reproduce as failing in their evolutionary 'purpose', provided that they are doing something that improves the liklihood of others passing on the same genes to subsequent generations. We see this principle illustrated very well in the social insects, species where most individuals aren't reproductive.

    So it's possible to imagine that some human genetic propensity to produce x number of non-reproductive individuals might confer a selective advantage on the population that has that characteristic, provided that the individuals who aren't coupled up into breeding pairs engage in some activity that increases the reproductive success of those who are.
     
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  7. madethesame Banned Banned

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    Some weird hypothesis I wrote.
    Don't worry, they were my own nonsense sense.
     
  8. madethesame Banned Banned

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    This thread can be discarded as I have extracted what i wanted.
    Thanks for helping me people.
     
  9. madethesame Banned Banned

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    I have attained sattori in human relations and relationships. I won't bother anyone any more.
     
  10. Bells Staff Member

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    Ermm right..
     
  11. madethesame Banned Banned

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    i agree.
     
  12. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    This is patently untrue.
    First, there are many ways nature expresses its methods of procreation. There is asexual procreation, there is sexual behavior among different species, the silvery salamander procreates by mating but rejects the male sperm. Flowers procreate by messengers (bees). There is infinite variety of bonding behaviors and as long as the behavior is productive in some beneficial way it is desirable to the larger society.

    Get rid of this sexual hang-up. It is not important in the grander scheme of Nature.

    As I said homosexuality is the natural consequence of natural diversity. Is a heterosexual relationship compulsive or addictive?

    Willfull? Addictive? Do you really think homosexuals have a choice in the matter?

    So instead, in order to prevent homosexuality, we fill the little mush minds with hatred of homosexuals? Have you ever heard heard of homosexuals stringing a heterosexual to a fence and torturing him/her to death. Well, I have heard many stories of the opposite.

    I am a heterosexual , married for 50 years to the same woman. Am I addicted to her or do I love her? What makes you think, homosexuality is any different? Why this obsession with homosexual sexual behavior. On average homosexuals behave exactly the same as any other human beings. Their attraction to same gender is no different that heterosexual attraction to different gender, which, last I heard, can lead to the most deviant behavior imaginable. And that behavior can be excused because it is heterosexual and "natural"?

    Homosexuals are not the boogie man/woman, they are human beings with a minor genetic variation. As long as 90% of 7 billion people are heterosexual, there is little chance that homosexuality will affect the "procreation of species". It has been with us since the dawn of the hominid and occurs in many other mammals. Throughout history there have been great and accomplished homosexual individuals.

    Moreover, IMO, homosexuality often results in a unique way of empathy which has produced some of the greatest works of art and literature. The picture you paint is inherently negative and shows your uninformed bias. A result of early teachings when your mind was still mush?

    This obsession with sexual behavior has to stop, or at least applied equally to any socially unacceptable behavior such as child molestation, sadism, caste systems, prejudice, bigotry; the list for deviant heterosexual behavior is much longer than the list of deviant behavior among homosexuals.
     
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  13. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    Duplication deleted.
     
  14. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    "Dangerous?" So men who decide to remain celibate are dangerous? How about women who decide to remain celibate - are they dangerous as well?
    And no single person is capable of evolution. Evolution doesn't work by creating a more ideal organism - it works by random mutation, then having organisms die off.
    Some men are, some aren't. Up to them.
    Or via sperm banks, or via sex.
     
  15. madethesame Banned Banned

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    People this thread can be closed. I have realized relationships. Therefore their is no need for this thread to continue.
    And I accept I must have written lots of foolish things.
     
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    Mod Note

    Closing at the request of the thread starter.
     
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