What is the most important subject taught in school?

Discussion in 'Science & Society' started by Kadark, Dec 22, 2007.

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Which is most important?

  1. Mathematics

    17.2%
  2. English

    13.8%
  3. Biology

    6.9%
  4. Chemistry

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  5. Physics

    3.4%
  6. History

    6.9%
  7. Social/Global Studies

    1.7%
  8. Economics

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  9. Physical Education/Gymnastics

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  10. Career and Life Management

    1.7%
  11. Philosophy

    3.4%
  12. Law

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  13. Geography

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  14. Geology

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  15. Software/Computer Courses

    1.7%
  16. All subjects are equally important

    20.7%
  17. Other (specified in thread)

    22.4%
  1. kikuchi Registered Member

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    Yes, because elementary school kids can understand something as abstract as logic.
     
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  3. Pandaemoni Valued Senior Member

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    The smart ones will be just as impressed by your strong commend of English.

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    Again, it's just priorities, what helps more, math or language. It seems to me that, for the typical person, having strong primary language and weak math skills would be superior to having weak primary language and strong math skills. The former skill set is much more adaptable and usable in both employment and social contexts, the latter less adaptable in the job market and almost always suboptimal in social settings.

    There are individual situations I can imagine where that might not be the case, but those are fairly limited situations.
     
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  5. Fraggle Rocker Staff Member

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    Well sure. But the smart ones won't even acknowledge your existence if you don't have that! You need something else in addition to what they consider the minimum qualifications.
     
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  7. peta9 Registered Senior Member

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    dontcha know it's dictatorial regimes that feed off of that?
     
  8. mountainhare Banned Banned

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    Lessons about white male privilege. If we didn't teach kids such myths, white males wouldn't get to grow up knowing what scum they are. The horror!

    But seriously, I'd say either English (you need good English everywhere in life, from job applications and interviews, to obtaining grants and writing complaint letters), or maths (budgeting). But I don't think you'd need Year 12 maths to get about OK in life.
     
  9. pjdude1219 screw watergate i want to know about zaragate Valued Senior Member

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    critical thinking and logic not really taught cept at college but it should speicclly in america
     
  10. Pronatalist Registered Senior Member

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    Actually it would be Reading. I didn't think I saw it in there.

    And is English, actually a different subject?

    Anyway, Reading is the most important subject to learn, because once a person can read, the whole wolrd becomes an open book, and people can learn most anything they want.

    Or should I have said, to learn "the love of reading?"

    And here's some great "educational" reading:

    www.howstuffworks.com
     
  11. Norsefire Salam Shalom Salom Registered Senior Member

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    feed off what?
     
  12. peta9 Registered Senior Member

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    that's how they become arrogant etc by being dictatorial and abusing power.
     
  13. Norsefire Salam Shalom Salom Registered Senior Member

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    Yes, that is how so, but it is done within your average school as well, and made worse by the fact of presence of horrible "pop culture"

    And where does dictatorial and abusing power come into military schools? The youngsters will be taught respect and responsibility, they will be educated on history and compromise, diplomacy, they will be toughened, and be made men.

    What are they taught in average schools? Let's see:

    1) pointless information
    2) a horrible environment riddled with "pop culture" crap
    3) their schools hide the true world. children will believe that all the world is one big, happy place. The ideal example military school would show them, would slap them in the face with the information one what the world REALLY is, and train them for that.
    4) Schools teach children to submit, to restrain themselves from a higher calling

    And worst of all, or one of the worst, they make the student so steretypically average. He will grow up, get a boring job, and die.

    They keep from him the facts that he could have a higher calling, he could rise to be a conquerer, but no, they want to make him the "average citizen"

    Big, big problem. That's why America has never had any Napoleans, the people don't even THINK TO try to do something greater.
     
  14. peta9 Registered Senior Member

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    alright, i see some positive aspects that could be implemented but a higher calling isn't just military related. As a matter of fact, too much militarism can stifle creativity and make people 'stereotypical' and controlled as well. There needs to be a sane balance.
     
  15. Norsefire Salam Shalom Salom Registered Senior Member

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    Well, a military school is the closest term

    A military+religious school is perfect for making top Generals, Businessmen, and Leaders, not so much scientists
     
  16. Gustav Banned Banned

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    math
    matter of life and death
     
  17. Gustav Banned Banned

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    grunt
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  18. peta9 Registered Senior Member

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    militarism is all about control, roteness and subjugation. That's why there is a strict chain of command in the military. it definitely doesn't encourage "thought" or "creativity" which is essential for advancement.

    i don't see any greatness besides some measure of discipline and order to be extracted from that for the whole.

    i don't see anything wrong with pop culture either anymore than anything else.
     
  19. Chatha big brown was screwed up Registered Senior Member

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    The people that choose mathematics made a mistake, anything outside basic calculus is relatively impractical bull kaka,you won'tuse it in everyday matters unless you are some kind of research scientist or engineer. Arithimetcis and some algebra are what we use everyday. You don't have to master mathematics to become successful, many people become successful without knowing mathematics, but try becoming successful without basic reading and writing- that is a mathematical impossibility.
     
  20. Norsefire Salam Shalom Salom Registered Senior Member

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    Yes, perhaps, but it also plants the roots of success: confidence, strength, and discipline

    You don't? To the youth, to the culture? It's a poison.
     
  21. Avatar smoking revolver Valued Senior Member

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    Language skills - reading, writing.
     
  22. Norsefire Salam Shalom Salom Registered Senior Member

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    That's to an extent. At what point does it stop being useful? I personally have never had to use the knowledge of all these clauses, phrases, and crap like that.
     
  23. Avatar smoking revolver Valued Senior Member

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    Every subject for the avarage person is to an extent.
     

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