what is the greatest song ever??if u say anything by Greenday il personally kick ur a

Discussion in 'Art & Culture' started by Bum Bum, Dec 5, 2006.

  1. Tyler Registered Senior Member

    Green Day were wearing eyeliner twelve years ago when I first saw them. They just also had flannel and jeans on. And frankly, they were on too many drugs to really think about their appearances. I'm sure now they're much closer to sober and that has more to do with their change. They still put on a great show and Billy Joe can fuckin' wail.

    But I disagree with every comment thus far. There've been a lot of radio friendly songs mentioned, not necessarily the best of the bands listed.

    I don't know what the best song is. My two favourite pieces of music are Liszt's second Hungarian Rhapsody and Shostakovich's Eigth Symphony.

    As for rock songs? There are so many.

    Fame by Bowie, Memory Remains by Metallica, Good Vibrations by the Beach Boys... As for real classics? Johnny B. Goode - no doubt.

    But my favourite song of all time has to be David Bowie by Phish.

    edit: Killer Queen is a great tune as well.
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  3. Tyler Registered Senior Member

    Oh, and I hate the Eagles and despise Hotel California. They are the epitome of melodramatic, simple and inane. They have no interesting harmony, the tune isn't catchy except to be revolting and the aesthetic is just off.
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  5. redarmy11 Registered Senior Member

    Seconded. And that goes for 'American Pie' as well.
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  7. Fraggle Rocker Staff Member

    The lyrics of "Hotel California" are very literate. The parallel between the history of the state itself and the life story of someone who finds himself there is tightly drawn--starting with the mission and ending with the dissolute lifestyles. The wordplay like "Mercedes bends" is clever and puts Robert Plant to shame with his sophomoric line about "to be a rock and not to roll." The reggae beat gives it an appropriate "Margaritaville"-like tropical feel. (I don't understand why they changed it to an anonymous rock beat on the reunion album but they should have stuck to their guns and not reunited.) The harmonic structure of the music is damnably complex, thirty years later I still have trouble playing through the whole song without screwing up a chord.

    But as I said, perhaps you have to be a Californian to appreciate it. Everything about the song is just dead on.
  8. thedevilsreject Registered Senior Abuser Registered Senior Member

    i dont really think so, i love the song yet i live in the uk

    perhaps you just need some imagination
  9. Tyler Registered Senior Member

    The lyrics are obvious and straight-forward. This alone doesn't damn a song, many great songs have obvious lyrics. But that is not a reason to love Hotel California. It's corny. Really, really, really corny. And very straightforward. Sorry but "mercedes bends" is not some brilliant poetic twist of words.

    And I never insinuated a Zeppelin song was one of the best. But, what I will say for Zeppelin is that they came up with much, much better rifs and practically wrote the book on stadium rock.

    The harmonics of the song are not complex. Not one bit. Listen to any of the music I listed and you'll find much more interest. Again, great songs can be simple (say, "Hard Day's Night" by the Beatles) - but this one just has no redeeming character. It's an annoying song.

    edit: Oh, and yes I must just need more imagination. It's a very difficult and obtruse display of literature to try and conceptualize the meaning of Hotel California. The words are so deep, man, and, like, the message is so...profound. Well, I'll go listen to my Shostakovich again, cause I sure as hell can't open my mind enough to grasp Hotel California.
  10. dagr8n8 Registered Senior Member

    Im gonna say
    Eric Clapton - Tears in Heaven
    Luis Armstrong - What a Wonderfull World
    Or I really Like
    Hot Butter - Pop Corn

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  11. Joaquin Sleuth Registered Senior Member

    My Girl- The Temptations
  12. Fathoms Banned Banned

    and thirded for Sweet Home Alabama as well.
  13. Fraggle Rocker Staff Member

    Do not say that a few miles from here in Virginia or anywhere in the South or the Border States. Every bar band has to know that song. People of every political and demographic stripe--even kids who have no clue about the references to George Wallace or Neil Young's lyrics--sing along with every word.
  14. Xerxes asdfghjkl Valued Senior Member

    Tough question, but my vote goes to Jorge Ben for Pais Tropical.
  15. Tyler Registered Senior Member

    I completely forgot to mention one of my favourites ever - Paco de Lucia. Particularly his pieces played by the Guitar Trio on the Warfield album.
  16. madanthonywayne Morning in America Registered Senior Member

  17. cole grey Hi Valued Senior Member

    Louis armstrong - "summer song"

    Zeppelin - " going to california" , "thank you", "when the levee breaks, "ramble on"
    Metallica "master of puppets" or maybe something else
    Bowie "golden years", "fame", "china girl", "let's dance"
    Red hot chilli peppers, "behind the sun"
    throwing muses "bright yellow gun"
    Smashing pumpkins, "glynis"
    Beatles, any song they wrote that wasn't funny.
    2pac - "california love"
    nwa "fuck the police"
    Beastie boys - "the in sound from way out " <--- the whole album.
    Bjork - anything off "post"
    elvis - "memphis tenessee"
    dj shadow "mutual slump"
    ella fitzgerald - anything off "live in rome"
    flaming lips "spider bite" or "superman"
    minor threat "minor threat"
    Jane's addiction - couple of songs off "nothing's shocking"
    jimi hendrix "castles made of sand"
    Stevie wonder " you and I", "village ghetto land", "have a talk with god"
    The sundays, covering "wild horses" by the stones
    Leo brouwer "cuban landscape with rain"
    johnny cash "i've been everywhere"
    john coltrane "spiritual"
    jeff buckley "lover you should have come over"
    something from micheal jackson
    the police anything off the "classics" album
    Radiohead something off "the bends"
    Rage against the machine "testify"
    Rush "losing it"
    the shins "chutes too narrow"
    Death cab for cutie - "why you'd want to live here"
    sade "by your side"

    etc., etc., etc.

    Edit - I couldn't help myself
  18. invert_nexus Ze do caixao Valued Senior Member

    Titties and Beer by Zappa.

    A kiss to build a dream on.
  19. Charles_Wong Registered Senior Member

    I like Mozart, Beethoven, Hyden, Hendel, Tchaikovsky, Wagner, Vivaldi, Verdi, Rossini.
  20. invert_nexus Ze do caixao Valued Senior Member

    No surprise there.

    I'm surprised Bach didn't make your list.

    Anyway. This thread isn't about composers.
    It's about songs.
    You've just listed a bunch of academia keywords to indicate you're all cultured and stuff, but failed to present an actual favorite song.

    I'd have to go with The Goldberg Variations by Bach as one of my favorites by this composer in this genre.
    Particularly the 21st variation although the opening aria is also quite nice.
    And more particularly the 1981 rendition by Gould.
    Although the humming in the background is a touch eerie at first.

    Joanna MacGreggor's Counterpoint rendition of Contrapunctus is also awesome. Even though she had to use studio trickery to splice together several of the fugues so as to present the illusion of being played by a single person (an impossible task).
    Favorite fugue?
    I'd have to go with VIII. The controlled chaos is something special.
  21. thedevilsreject Registered Senior Abuser Registered Senior Member

    the thing that should not be-metallica

    the song is so fucking badass, i prefer it even to MoP
  22. Charles_Wong Registered Senior Member

    I don't like Bach, perhaps because of the harpsichord cornet, I prefer strings. I just find his style uninteresting, not much variation, too much redundancy? I can't really verbally describe my aversion.
  23. Shaitan lord of hades Registered Senior Member

    secret love or tammy or ferry cross the mersey

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