What is real ?

Discussion in 'General Philosophy' started by Enmos, Dec 29, 2007.

  1. cosmictraveler Be kind to yourself always. Valued Senior Member

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    This is my viewpoint as of this day, doesn't mean it won't change!

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  3. lightgigantic Banned Banned

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    straight off the bat you indicate that the body is not "real"

    the question is whether the body is the final word about us
     
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  5. Enmos Valued Senior Member

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    My view is that there is an absolute reality that is perceived imperfectly by us (imperfectly as supposed to exactly what absolute reality is like). It is then the 'reality' in our heads that is 'warped'.
     
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  7. Enmos Valued Senior Member

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    The "I gave it back" part bothers me a bit, otherwise it describes my viewpoint quite accurately as well.
     
  8. Enmos Valued Senior Member

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    No, I never said the body isn't real.. I'm indicating that is the body dies, what good was it's perception..
    The internal (subjective) reality is gone.

    In other words.. existence is inherently meaningless..
     
  9. Enmos Valued Senior Member

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    Hmm ok, maybe a philosophical approach would be more meaningful.. lol

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    Care to explain ? To me it's just common sense.. and I am far from theistic..

    Are you sure ? Where do you live ?

    Anyway, you just described how I see things.. maybe we need another word for the meaning I mean then.
    You realize that you actually agree with me, right ? This is just semantics..

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  10. lightgigantic Banned Banned

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    so in conclusion, what is the status of the body since it cannot stably house perception?
     
  11. Enmos Valued Senior Member

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    Eh.. temporary ? What do you mean ?
     
  12. lightgigantic Banned Banned

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    are temporary things real?
     
  13. Enmos Valued Senior Member

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    Well.. yeah, temporarily
     
  14. lightgigantic Banned Banned

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    then I guess you have answered (at least part) of your OP question

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  15. Enmos Valued Senior Member

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    LOL it isn't about that..
     
  16. lightgigantic Banned Banned

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    it's not?

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  17. Enmos Valued Senior Member

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    It's more about meaning and value and that sort of stuff being completely subjective.
     
  18. lightgigantic Banned Banned

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    why would a temporarily real person have aspirations for value and meaning that isn't temporary?
     
  19. Enmos Valued Senior Member

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    Huh.. I lost you there..

    Do you agree that meaning and value are subjective ?
     
  20. superluminal I am MalcomR Valued Senior Member

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    Wow. It took you this long with LG? Damn... you're good!
     
  21. lightgigantic Banned Banned

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    I am agreeing that some meaning and value is subjective
    I am further indicating that the expression of dissatisfaction for all meaning to be similarly categorized suggests something else

    after all,
    why would a temporarily real person have aspirations for value and meaning that isn't temporary?
     
  22. lightgigantic Banned Banned

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    I just want to sincerely say that I appreciate how you can spell the word "long" correctly

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  23. Enmos Valued Senior Member

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    And that is.. ?

    Wtf? Why not.. ? Explain ?
    The meaning and value created by that person goes with the person when he or she dies is it not ?
     

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