What is "Rape Culture"?

Discussion in 'Ethics, Morality, & Justice' started by Bowser, Nov 8, 2015.

  1. Randwolf Ignorance killed the cat Valued Senior Member

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    Quite the Freudian slip there... The word you're probably looking for is "poll".

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  3. Tiassa Let us not launch the boat ... Staff Member

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    Is this a no-smoking facility?
     
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  5. milkweed Valued Senior Member

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    while the below short film doesnt quite address the specifics of Rape Culture, I think it gets the basic premise correct. Enjoy

     
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  7. Secular Sanity Registered Senior Member

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    Wait. What?

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    It was presented as a good thing in "Gone with the Wind", and there were plenty of other films that used the forced seduction bit back in the day. You know, good girl refuses, starts out as rape, but then it turns into consensual sex. That, my friend, is a perfect example of glorified rape.

     
  8. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    The Fountainhead, one of the more often-cited Ayn Rand works, has a rape scene that is depicted as a good thing in the long run.

    One of the most beloved family movies of all time - "It's a Wonderful Life" - shows the lead character grabbing a woman and shaking her until she cries, while yelling "I don't want to get married!" He then pulls her in and kisses her. The next scene shows them getting married.
     
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  9. Randwolf Ignorance killed the cat Valued Senior Member

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    I imagine you posted that satirical video to highlight the absurdity of valuing #NotAllMen's feelings above the fact that one in five women will experience rape, right milkweed?
     
  10. Randwolf Ignorance killed the cat Valued Senior Member

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    There are many, many examples of the rape meme - a whole slew of them here: THE REFLECTION OF RAPE CULTURE IN THE MEDIA

    A few excerpts...

    We all remembered loving Sixteen Candles when we were younger, but when we rewatched it as adults, we found certain aspects disturbing. There was the racist comic relief provided by the Asian minstrel/exchange student, Long Duk Dong, and there was the scene where Jake Ryan, Molly Ringwald’s Object of Affection, passes off his car and his bitchy cheerleader girlfriend to The Geek, the lovable loser portrayed by Anthony Michael Hall. The girlfriend has had too much to drink and has passed out in the front seat. Instead of, I don’t know, doing something crazy like driving her home, Jake Ryan, Dreamboat Extraordinaire, gives her to The Geek, telling him to have fun (read: have sex with her, she won’t even remember in the morning). Wow. Thanks a lot for that wonderful message, John Hughes.
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    MOVIES IN WHICH WOMEN ARE SEXUALLY ASSAULTED OR THREATENED WITH SEXUAL ASSAULT: 28 Days Later (2002) 300 (2006) .45 (2006) 8mm (1999) Accused, The (1988) Alien 3 (1993) American Haunting, An (2006) An Eye For An Eye (1996) Apocalypse Now (1979) Apocalypse Now Redux ( Atonement (2007) Attack Girls Swim Team vs. The Undead Axe, aka Lisa, Lisa (1977) Bad Lieutenant (1992) Baise-Moi (2000) Barbarian Queen (1985) Barbed Wire Dolls (1975) Beast in Heat, The (1977 - Italy) Black Gestapo, The (1975) Black Snake Moan (2006) Bladerunner (1982) Blindness (2008) Blood Debts (1983) Bloodrayne (2006) Blue Desert (1991) Blue Steel (1989) Blue Velvet (1986) Boy and His Dog, A (1974) Boys Don’t Cry (1999) Braveheart (1995) Brotherhood of the Wolf (2001) Bully (2001) Cannibal Holocaust (1980) Carpenter (1988) Captivity (2007) Casualties of War (1989) Caveman (1981) Chaos (2005) - not to be confused with the 2006 movie starring Jason Statham. Chained Heat (1983) A Clockwork Orange (1971) Coffy (1973) Color Purple, The (1985) Condemned, The (2007) Crank (2006) Crash (1996) Cruel Justice (1999 TV) Crow, The (1994) Death Wish (1974) Death Wish II (1982) Death Wish 3 (1985) Death Wish 4: The Crackdown (1987) Demon Rage aka Satan’s Mistress (1982) Demonlover (2002) Devil’s Advocate, The (1997) Dirty Harry (1971) District B-13 (2002) Don’t Answer The Phone! (1980) Don’t Go Near The Park (1981) Eden Log (2007) Entity, The (1981) Evil Dead (1981) Excalibur (1981) Expose (1976) Exterminator, The (1980) Face/Off (1997) Fame (1980) Feast (2005) Fight For Your Life (1977) Flesh & Blood (1985) Forced Vengeance (1982) Foxy Brown (1974) Freeze Me (2000) Frenzy (1972) Funny Games (1997, 2008) Geography of Fear, The (2000) Gia (1998) Gladiator (2000) Gran Torino (2008) Gravedancers, The (2006) Handgun (1983) Handmaid’s Tale, The (1990) Heaven & Earth (1993) Heavy Metal (1981) Helen of Troy (2003 - TV) Henry: Portrait of a Serial Killer (1986) Highlander, The (1986) Hills Have Eyes, The (1977/2006) Hills Have Eyes 2, The (2007) Hollow Man (2000) Hotel New Hampshire (1984) House on the Edge of the Park, The (1980- Italy) I Drink Your Blood (1970) I Spit On Your Grave (1978) Images In A Convent (1979 - Italy) Incubus (1981) Insaf Ka Tarazu (1980 - India) Irreversible (2002) I Stand Alone (1998) Jack Frost (1996) - not to be confused with the 1998 movie with Micheal Keaton Jacob’s Ladder (1990) Kids (1995) Kika (1993) Kill Bill (2003) Kinjite: Forbidden Subjects (1989) Kiss The Girls (1997) Last House on the Left (1972/2009) Legend of Billie Jean, The (1985) Lipstick (1976) Loha (1997) Man Bites Dog (1992 - France) Man in the Iron Mask, The (1998) Maniac Cop 2 (1990) Maya (2001 - India) Messenger, The: The Story of Joan of Arc (1999) Mercy (2000) Mindwarp (1990) Monster (2003) Motor Psycho (1965) Ms. 45 (1981) Nail Gun Massacre (1985) Naked (1993) Naked Weapon (2002) New York Ripper, The (1982 - Italy) Nightmare Man (2006) NightThirst (2002) Observe and Report (2009) Once Upon A Time In America (1984) Once Were Warriors (1994) One Flew Over the Cuckoo’s Nest (1975) Original Sin (2001) Pathfinder (2007) Planet Terror (2007) Platoon (1986) Pretty Woman (1990) Prey for Rock and Roll (2003) Prince of Tides (1991) Quick and the Dead, The (1995) Red Dawn (1984) Red Sonja (1985) Relax, It’s Just Sex (1998) Revenge (1990) Revenge of the Nerds (1984) Rob Roy (1995) Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves (1991) Rosemary’s Baby (1968) Sacred Flesh (1999 - UK) Saturday Night Fever (1977) Savage Dawn (1985) School of the Holy Beast (1974 - Japan) Silent Night, Deadly Night (1984) Sin City (2005) Sister Emanuelle (1977 - Italy) Sixteen Candles (1984) Slumdog Millionaire (2008) Spartan (2004) Stabilizer, The (1984) Straw Dogs(1971) Stir of Echoes (1999) Switch (1991) Switchblade Sisters (1975) Talk to Her (2002) Tape (2001) Teeth (2007) Terminator: Salvation (2009) Thelma & Louise (1991) Thriller - A Cruel Picture (1973) Tie Me Up! Tie Me Down! (1990) Time to Kill, A (1996) Trick Or Treat (1986) True Lies (1994) Twin Peaks: Fire, Walk With Me (1992) Vatel (2000) Virgin Spring, The (1960) Visiting Hours (1982) Watchmen (2009) Women In Cages (1971) Young and Dangerous (1996 - Hong Kong) V for Vendetta (2005) Zombie Doom (1999)

    MOVIES IN WHICH MEN ARE SEXUALLY ASSAULTED OR THREATENED WITH SEXUAL ASSAULT:

    American History X (1998) Bad Education (2004) Boys Don’t Cry (1999) Cruising (1980) Deliverance (1972) Ilsa, She-Wolf of the SS (1974) Irreversible (2002) Mysterious Skin (2004) Mystic River (2003) Pulp Fiction (1994) Scum (1979 - UK) Shawshank Redemption (1994) Sleepers (1996) Species (1995) Tenebrae (1982)
    What does this say about our culture? Hmmm?


     
  11. Bowser Right Here, Right Now Valued Senior Member

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    LOL, Yes, an error on part. My daughter is a pole vaulter in school, so I sometimes mix the two when typing.
     
  12. Randwolf Ignorance killed the cat Valued Senior Member

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    Hmmm, I can't think of any misogynistic comments based on that statement at all. But you know some boys will probably be boys and come up with a snarky remark or two.

    There is a famous quote oft attributed to Will Rogers that goes here...
     
  13. Bowser Right Here, Right Now Valued Senior Member

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    I think you folks are stretching the definition of "Rape" with your examples. Does kissing a woman equate to sexual assault? Also, if you are actually watching that much media that involves sexual assault, you just might have a problem. As casual viewer with over a half century of experience watching popular entertainment, I've seen maybe four or five depictions of sexual assault in the movies or on television. In music, as a teenager, there was one Ted Nugent recording that I recall that seemed to glorify sexual assault: "Strangle Hold" Nonetheless, we didn't form rape gangs and take to the streets after listening to the music.

    I would also like to remind you that popular media also presents other depictions of other less savory topics. That still does not define us as a culture.
     
  14. Bowser Right Here, Right Now Valued Senior Member

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    Let 'em rip. She's actually very good at it--12 feet
     
  15. Randwolf Ignorance killed the cat Valued Senior Member

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    I don't think anyone here is proposing that films or music cause glorification of rape culture - instead, the arts are a reflection of that which already exists.
     
  16. Randwolf Ignorance killed the cat Valued Senior Member

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    Nary a clue...

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  17. Bowser Right Here, Right Now Valued Senior Member

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    If it makes you feel better about your remark.
     
  18. Bowser Right Here, Right Now Valued Senior Member

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    Well certainly rape exists, but I don't believe there is a culture built around it. Art can reflect many things, such as crucifix in a jar of urine. That doesn't mean everyone keeps one on the shelf.
     
  19. Randwolf Ignorance killed the cat Valued Senior Member

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    Which remark?
     
  20. Randwolf Ignorance killed the cat Valued Senior Member

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    Our culture isn't "built around it" - it is simply integrated into the fabric thereof...
     
  21. spidergoat Venued Serial Memberlist Valued Senior Member

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    It can be. To call it a culture doesn't mean its celebrated in media and movies, it means there is a prevailing attitude that is dismissive of a woman's claims, and indeed often prevents a woman from making such claims in the first place.
     
  22. Secular Sanity Registered Senior Member

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    Exactly!

    I forgot about the "Sixteen Candles" scene. "Deliverance", that one still bothers me. TMI for my age at the time. "Flowers of War" was another hard one to watch because that shit really happened.

    I was bored last night and watched "Seeking a Friend for the End of the World". She said, "I won't steel anything, if you don't rape me." He said, "Deal". I wonder how men would feel, if they had to worry about us raping them all the time. What if we were stronger? Can you imagine the guy saying "I won't steel anything, if you don't shove anything up my ass."?
     
  23. Secular Sanity Registered Senior Member

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    I just thought of something, have you ever searched for the stats? How many men are rapists? Do you know, Bowser?
     

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