# What is Magnetism?

Discussion in 'Alternative Theories' started by Pascal Halbherr, Jan 4, 2018.

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3. ### KittamaruNever cruel nor cowardly...Staff Member

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5. ### NotEinsteinValued Senior Member

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What are "toroidal vibration" and "divine symmetry", and how to they integrate with QED?

7. ### Pascal HalbherrRegistered Member

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Here's the front page of what you will find

Hope you will have fun reading through. Its all about investigating magnetism using light (photons, Ferrocell), electrons (Cathod Ray Tube, CRT) and magnets. Pure forms of energy to describe what magnetism is.

8. ### NotEinsteinValued Senior Member

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Electrons and magnets aren't "pure forms of energy".

But you haven't answered my question: what are "toroidal vibration" and "divine symmetry", and how to they integrate with QED?

9. ### Pascal HalbherrRegistered Member

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The Toroid is a geometric pattern that can simulate quantum fields. A beautiful one with a center of reference/center of origin. If tought in fields, its where there is no field, but pure potential to create a field, which would equal value 1 and 0 in superposition.

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11. ### NotEinsteinValued Senior Member

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You will need to elaborate, because this is a typically quack statement made by people that don't understand what quantum theory really is. Can you please give the mathematical definition of the fields you are modelling with a toroid?

The center of reference/center of origin can be arbitrary chosen, or are you introducing an absolute frame of reference?

Please explain how in quantum theory a potential (without anything else) gives rise to a field.

Mathematical values cannot be in superposition. What do you mean exactly?

12. ### NotEinsteinValued Senior Member

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So you are here to promote your slideshow, not primarily to start a discussion? I think that's against the rules, but I may be wrong.

13. ### Pascal HalbherrRegistered Member

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Looking forward to your ideas of how to explain what to see when a magnet is put below a ferrocell

14. ### Pascal HalbherrRegistered Member

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I see a toroid when I look at a magnet below ferrocell. Thats a hardcore fact. Now how about we discuss this? Instead of framing me quackery in the first encounter of this forum?
Explain (not describe) what a magnetic field is according to QED, or why the photon accelerates back to lightspeed once it left the medium that slowed it down temporarily?

15. ### NotEinsteinValued Senior Member

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Alright; let's talk QED.

Let's start at the beginning, the QED Lagrangian: $\mathcal{L}=\bar{\psi}(i\gamma^\mu D_\mu-m)\psi-\frac{1}{4}F_{\mu\nu}F^{\mu\nu}$
What is the definition of your toroidal field that I can plug into it?

I did no such thing; I only remarked that things similar to what you are saying have been said before by quacks.

It's the off-diagonal components of the electromagnetic tensor's space matrix elements.

The photon doesn't "accelerate back to lightspeed", but I understand what you mean. Well, that's simple: because massless particles travel at the speed of light in a vacuum, always.

16. ### Pascal HalbherrRegistered Member

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Explain Ferrocell image first my friend, because an image of reality is hardest evidence there is, always more accurate than mathematics approximation. I see a toroidal symmetry. What do you see?

17. ### DaeconKiwi fruitValued Senior Member

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I see woo people.

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18. ### NotEinsteinValued Senior Member

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I see the vector potential of a magnetic field. For the record: I've never denied that under certain circumstances there are toroidal symmetries involving magnetic fields.

19. ### Pascal HalbherrRegistered Member

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Why is the image of the ferrocell inverse to the one using iron filings?

20. ### NotEinsteinValued Senior Member

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I don't know, you tell me.

21. ### Pascal HalbherrRegistered Member

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Why is there spin-like geometry in ferrocell but not in îron filings? Opposed spins at the same time, resulting in a static geometric pattern manifestation?

22. ### Pascal HalbherrRegistered Member

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