No, I don't. I specifically and repeatedly and with examples and argument and observation, over and over and over, point out that the human is and always will behave strictly according to the script and all natural laws. The human being is part of the natural universe. That is central and basic and repetitively invoked in all my posts here. Why do you suppose you are unable to read my posts? Gibberish. I'm not "insinuating" anything, and I'm insisting on Bolt's complete determination in all of his actions. Instead of wandering off on implications and insinuations, how about you read the posts? In the driver's mind, as determined, prior to the decision. That question has been asked and answered something like a dozen times now. You guys aren't exactly quick on the uptake. Usain Bolt, of course. That's what the universe determined. I was surprised to find QQ tangled in that metaphor error - even more surprised to find anyone else confused by coincidental language, on a science forum. The word "likewise" is a fundamental error. That's not how natural laws work. And insisting that the deterministic nature of reality denies freedom of any kind, by assumption like that, is of course the standard supernatural assumption you deny making, every time you make it. You would be better off going with "trivial" instead of non-existent - that way your conflict with basic engineering and physics would not be quite so flagrant. Good question. Worth a great deal of study. We know - for starters, for absolute certainty - that the behavior itself (the stuff that is scripted) is quite different. Humans routinely and as a basic aspect of their nature make decisions based on information and criteria, for example - planets, as far as we know, do not. That's an entire logical level of difference, that kind of mental processing. Are you unfamiliar with the universe specified and stipulated to (by me) for this thread? It was your idea, your universe - deterministic etc. If you don't know what it is, I'm not sure how to help you.