I understood your premise just fine. You don't really accept much of anything as quality evidence. We already knew that, and it's not hard to figure out from your posts. Okay. So, would you mind gracing us (in this thread or in another one) with YOUR description of what constitutes quality in a proof, or does such a concept even exist in your world view? FYI, I don't have any pre-conceived notions about that either, so it is perfectly safe for you to take it in any direction you wish. Evidence definition (from the internet): the available body of facts or information indicating whether a belief or proposition is true or valid. synonyms:proof, confirmation, verification, substantiation, corroboration, affirmation, attestation Example: "they found evidence of his plotting" Oh, no. That can't be right. No mention of "reproducible" And what are these "facts?" Is everyone entitled to their own? Why can't they come from YouTube? My brain is melting again… How can "proof" also be "evidence?" The evidence seems to show, this thread not only doesn't belong here, but was unnecessary in the first place. How could anyone even get fired up about it? There were flame wars in the middle of it. No wonder the guy who started this thread is so hard to understand. Is he going to do this to every word definition he doesn't seem to get? The available evidence would seem to support it, and a few other hasty conclusions as well. I am not trolling this thread. This is a discussion. If I ever imagined that I wanted to troll you, I'd stop and go find something more productive to do with my time. What were you doing just before posting the OP?