What is driving your pursuit of the truth?

Discussion in 'General Philosophy' started by greenberg, Nov 28, 2007.

1. lightgiganticBannedBanned

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glaucon
oh?
so its true that only some things are true?

yes, it could be true that there are actually X's and Y's

..... in short, truth reigns supreme. Everytime you attempt to clarify what is (or isn't) true, you confirm truth.

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5. glaucontending tangentiallyRegistered Senior Member

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Incorrect.

You consistently mistake assertion for the applicaction of truth.

What you're doing here, in attempting to play logic games is to mistake the propositional assertion of the property true, with a particular existential instantiation. In short, you're making a category mistake.

It is not the case that it is true that only some things are true; it is the case that truth can only be applied in certain cases.

And that there may be only one or the other.

Wholly incorrect. This is a strictly semantic application of the concept truth, which is not the object here.

7. lightgiganticBannedBanned

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so the final word is that there is a truthful way to define truth?
Or have I misunderstood you since the only truth is that truth cannot be defined?
Or is it the truth that there are several ways to define truth?

if any of these statements are not true, please tell me what is.

8. glaucontending tangentiallyRegistered Senior Member

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No.

No.

No.

This question succinctly explains your complete lack of understanding.

Stop trying to play word games. As I've explained, truth is not a mutually exclusive property.

From the beginning, as usual, you are fixed upon one understanding, and refuse to pay attention.

What is true, is that you could actually contribute to discussions here, but are much too narrow-minded.

9. lightgiganticBannedBanned

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so it is true that the word truth is not mutually exclusive property?
how is that different from my third point? (several ways to define truth)?

so the only way I can prove that the above statement is not true is by agreeing with you?
:scratchin:

now remember, truth is not mutually exclusive property

10. glaucontending tangentiallyRegistered Senior Member

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Alas, as I've long suspected LG, you are incapable of understanding basic syllogistic and propositional logic (to say nothing of the English language..).

I seriously advise you to look into a first year University Intro Logic course. I have no doubt that the experience would be invaluable to you.

Until then, you cannot be taken seriously in any discussion.

I wish you good luck.

11. lightgiganticBannedBanned

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On the contrary, as indicated in our bizarre dialog, trying to argue about the non-existence of truth is complete rubbish

12. ThoreauValued Senior Member

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What drives my pursuit of truth consists of many things.

1) Attaining the knowledge in order to make correct judgements and decisions about the world around us.

2) Educating those who cannot see truths.

3) Attempting to overrule religion with the substitution of science.

13. lightgiganticBannedBanned

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given that science deals with issues of the senses and religion deals with issues beyond the senses how do you propose to do that?
By advocating that the terms "sense perception" and "reality" are synonymous?

14. greenberguntil the end of the worldRegistered Senior Member

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No, not necessarily. I wanted to avoid the problems connected to the definition of truth, hence I focused on the motivation and the justification for pursuing truth. I figured asking about these would actually yield more information on what people think truth is than simply asking for a definition of truth. It is a pragmatic spin.

15. Avatarsmoking revolverValued Senior Member

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So, did it work on me?

16. greenberguntil the end of the worldRegistered Senior Member

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Nr. 2 is rather open, though - ignorance justifies your pursuit of truth? Why - because you deem you are entitled to overcome ignorance, or you generally deem that ignorance should be overcome?

17. Avatarsmoking revolverValued Senior Member

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My own ignorance, yes. I generally deem that ignorance should be overcome.

18. Dana DIt's all about balanceRegistered Senior Member

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Learning truth, or more accurately to me, Knowledge is an adventure.

19. tablariddimforexU2Valued Senior Member

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Aversion to bullshit.

Otherwise, I'd be full of shit.

20. UltiTruthIn pursuit...Registered Senior Member

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1) A yearning to know
2) My sciforums id

21. gurglingmonkeyMore Amazing in RLRegistered Senior Member

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Just wondering, what do you mean by this?

22. SarkusHippomonstrosesquippedalo phobeValued Senior Member

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Motivation: intellectual curiosity.
Justification: none needed. What is "right"?

23. MetaKronRegistered Senior Member

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People beating crap out of each other for the fun of it.